Rick2you2 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 4/29/2022 at 12:08 PM, zhamlau said: Its quality work, superior to most art in comics these days, and he is producing it in his 80's. Nearly every other artist when they hit even close to this age is coasting on diminished skills and nostalgia. Again, some folks "don't get it" and can't see the value in 50+ year active streak where he worked at a high level loved by fans of multiple generations. He isn't flashy, I get it. He was just consistently very good and multi-talented for many many decades in a way no other artist really has ever been. You take any one year out as an example of course you can find someone you might like better, maybe a few guys even. So be it. The issue is when you add up that 50 year stream of constant mainstream fan supported work, the quality output and longevity really start to make an impact on the artist and his legacy. I think of baseball whenever I see this discussion. You hit .290 with 25 HR and 160 hits one year, hey that's pretty good. Not gonna be MVP most likely but you could make an all star game. You do that same stat line consistently for 25 years straight...you go into the hall first ballot and you are guaranteed in the discussion of "all time great players". So by this logic, Jamie Moyer should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame? He pitched for 26 years, and thereby accumulated 269 wins. Most fans wouldn't agree. Neither have the Hall of Fame voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Sal Buscema is the Chuck Norris of comic book art. delekkerste, tth2 and Rick2you2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadpoolJr. Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) On 1/30/2023 at 5:55 PM, JadeGiant said: Love it - noticed one of my pages when I quickly scanned through! Lol the guy used my ROM splash as the cover and seems to have used some other pages in the book too. Cool to see. Edited January 31, 2023 by DeadpoolJr. JadeGiant, delekkerste and Twanj 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 4:59 AM, delekkerste said: Sal Buscema is such a god that some guy created his own ultra-high quality bootleg Sal B. Artist Edition! @tth2 They didn't mention the requisite Sal Buscema strings of saliva in the mouth, even when the guy literally put his finger on a drawing of a salivating mouth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Sal has worked on Just about every key Marvel title during his long tenure with the Company. So, love him or hate him, when you think of Sal Buscema do you associate his work with a particular character or title or storyline? To me, nothing really jumps out from a storyline perspective or character/title. he was just…there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman_fan Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 Pure Sal in all is Sal-e-ness Benedict Judas Hel, KirbyJack, JadeGiant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 6:11 PM, jjonahjameson11 said: Sal has worked on Just about every key Marvel title during his long tenure with the Company. So, love him or hate him, when you think of Sal Buscema do you associate his work with a particular character or title or storyline? To me, nothing really jumps out from a storyline perspective or character/title. he was just…there. Probably it is just me, but I associate Sal paricularly with early Defenders and Cap America mid '50s (including Secret Empire). And let's not forget that many consider him a major Hulk artist. Surely we are not talking Byrne Austin UXM or Miller Janson DD, but still very competent super hero stories. tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:33 PM, batman_fan said: Pure Sal in all is Sal-e-ness I like early '70s Sal. I'm pretty indifferent to most of his art after about the mid-'70s, though, some of it works when paired with a strong inker (e.g., Bob McLeod inking him on New Mutants in the early '80s). batman_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:25 PM, delekkerste said: I like early '70s Sal. I'm pretty indifferent to most of his art after about the mid-'70s, though, some of it works when paired with a strong inker (e.g., Bob McLeod inking him on New Mutants in the early '80s). Those early New Mutants issues were great ! zhamlau, delekkerste and Unca Ben 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:11 PM, jjonahjameson11 said: he was just…there. Like the mail room clerks and janitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve9999 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) IMHO....One of the "earmarks" of a "successful artist who should be worthy of God Status" is the ability of that draftsman to create works whose creator can be immediately recognized because of their uniqueness and singular style. You KNOW Kirby's works immediately upon seeing them. You KNOW Wrightson's works the second you see them and so on Adams, BWS, Byrne, Perez and dozens of other artists whose unique and identifiable style made them the legends that they are. A good percentage of comic art fans (with the possible exception of those more experienced "eyes" hanging around these boards) would be hard pressed to immediately recognize and identify S. Buscema's works upon seeing it. Being "competent" or responsible for volumes of work does not make the artist worthy of "god status." For every Frazetta there will be dozens, if not hundreds of sci-fi/fantasy artists who works will mostly go unrecognized or appear in the "can you tell me who painted this?" posts. For every Winsor McCay there will be hundreds of strip artists that no one will ever know and for every Frank Miller there will be S. Buscemas, Don Perlins, Ron Wilsons and dozens and dozens of other "competent" artists who may be "good and reliable at what they do," but will hardly stand the test of time. Edited January 31, 2023 by steve9999 misspelling Dr. Balls and hmendryk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsonenthal Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:11 PM, jjonahjameson11 said: Sal has worked on Just about every key Marvel title during his long tenure with the Company. So, love him or hate him, when you think of Sal Buscema do you associate his work with a particular character or title or storyline? To me, nothing really jumps out from a storyline perspective or character/title. he was just…there. For whatever it's worth, Sal's Hulk is my Hulk. He was on the title forever and he is a solid storyteller. I'm not in the deity crowd, but I associate him with the Hulk, and I'm not sure if anyone had a longer run on that character. lb jefferies and KirbyJack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 2:43 PM, vodou said: Like the mail room clerks and janitor? What have you got against janitors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 1:11 AM, jjonahjameson11 said: So, love him or hate him, when you think of Sal Buscema do you associate his work with a particular character or title or storyline? To me, nothing really jumps out from a storyline perspective or character/title. Captain America in the mid-1970s, although it was probably more Steve Englehart's great scripts that I enjoyed, and Sal happened to be along for the ride. The value of Sal's innocuousness was demonstrated later in hindsight, however, when Frank Robbins took over from Sal and completely ruined some excellent stories by Englehart. I realized then that by being so plain vanilla, Sal hadn't detracted from the stories and allowed us Cap fans to enjoy Englehart's writing. I also associate Sal with the Defenders during that period. KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 9:07 AM, rsonenthal said: For whatever it's worth, Sal's Hulk is my Hulk. He was on the title forever and he is a solid storyteller. I'm not in the deity crowd, but I associate him with the Hulk, and I'm not sure if anyone had a longer run on that character. I always thought that Herb Trimpe was the artist most associated with BA Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Sal Hulk. Tons of action, great images. Sal was my Hulk "guy". This one is coming up on Clink. Not my page Benedict Judas Hel, Twanj, zhamlau and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 6:51 PM, Rick2you2 said: So by this logic, Jamie Moyer should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame? He pitched for 26 years, and thereby accumulated 269 wins. Most fans wouldn't agree. Neither have the Hall of Fame voters. You can pitch a long time at 61 mph tth2 and Rick2you2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unca Ben Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 4/16/2022 at 1:35 PM, boomtown said: My favorite period for Buscema art was when he did the Avengers in the early 1970s with inks by Grainger. Squadron Sinister, Invaders, Scorpio, he was at his finest. By the mid 1970s he had developed a bunch of short cuts because he was producing so much work. me too! boomtown, zhamlau, KirbyJack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joeypost Posted February 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2023 My newest page. BVladimirHarkonnen, Unca Ben, Randall Dowling and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I just sold a Sal Buscema panel page for a pretty decent sum. These are pages that you use to pay a few hundred dollars for but now that the collecting community has recognized Sal is one of the top Bronze Age artist ever, they command a price increase of 10x tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
