magoo74 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Hi all.. been collecting for over 30 years.. submitted a very nice 300 ASM order # CGC2029312750.. for pressing and grading… Grader notes.. “finger prints on cover” .. may be audited out but shame on them. Sincerely Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 This is a subforum for questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 The process of dry cleaning that is used by CCS does not remove all types of fingerprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 7:40 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: The process of dry cleaning that is used by CCS does not remove all types of fingerprints. Indeed, not all types of fingerprints can be reliably removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) On 4/24/2022 at 5:56 PM, magoo74 said: Hi all.. been collecting for over 30 years.. submitted a very nice 300 ASM order # CGC2029312750.. for pressing and grading… Grader notes.. “finger prints on cover” .. may be audited out but shame on them. Sincerely Robert Couple things here... Did the book have fingerprints prior to sending? If yes, well not all fingerprints can be removed. The longer they are on a book, the more time the oils sink in and can become just part of the book OR are you saying the book was nice and that somewhere between the time the book left you and the time they graded it, someone handled it and left fingerprints? If this is the case, you will need to prove this. Simply saying "my book did not have this flaw when it left" might not be enough. And again, you can have 1000 years of collecting experience, it does not make you immune to missing flaws. I also have been collecting a long time and I have missed flaws. It is why I take video AND photos of books I send in. Inconvenient? Maybe if I were sending hundreds of books each year but I send less than 50 a year. My latest return had a book with a smudge on it and I said "woah, I never noticed that before". But before I jumped on here to blast CGC for ruining my book, I looked back at my video and sure enough, the tiny smudge was present. Memory....why must ye fail me! So much time had passed I forgot what the book looked like. Which is totally understandable consider I look at different comics every week and have ever since that one left my hands. Anyways just trying to clarify the point of your initial post is all. Edited April 25, 2022 by comicginger1789 MattTheDuck and jokiing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOnly25Cents Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I'm curious how CGC knows they are fingerprints and not footprints Not A Clone, steveinthecity and jeremy2112 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 8:16 AM, comicginger1789 said: Couple things here... Did the book have fingerprints prior to sending? If yes, well not all fingerprints can be removed. The longer they are on a book, the more time the oils sink in and can become just part of the book OR are you saying the book was nice and that somewhere between the time the book left you and the time they graded it, someone handled it and left fingerprints? If this is the case, you will need to prove this. Simply saying "my book did not have this flaw when it left" might not be enough. And again, you can have 1000 years of collecting experience, it does not make you immune to missing flaws. I also have been collecting a long time and I have missed flaws. It is why I take video AND photos of books I send in. Inconvenient? Maybe if I were sending hundreds of books each year but I send less than 50 a year. My latest return had a book with a smudge on it and I said "woah, I never noticed that before". But before I jumped on here to blast CGC for ruining my book, I looked back at my video and sure enough, the tiny smudge was present. Memory....why must ye fail me! So much time had passed I forgot what the book looked like. Which is totally understandable consider I look at different comics every week and have ever since that one left my hands. Anyways just trying to clarify the point of your initial post is all. clearly this is what he means. magoo74 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) On 4/25/2022 at 7:50 PM, Artboy99 said: On 4/25/2022 at 9:16 AM, comicginger1789 said: Couple things here... Did the book have fingerprints prior to sending? If yes, well not all fingerprints can be removed. The longer they are on a book, the more time the oils sink in and can become just part of the book OR are you saying the book was nice and that somewhere between the time the book left you and the time they graded it, someone handled it and left fingerprints? If this is the case, you will need to prove this. Simply saying "my book did not have this flaw when it left" might not be enough. And again, you can have 1000 years of collecting experience, it does not make you immune to missing flaws. I also have been collecting a long time and I have missed flaws. It is why I take video AND photos of books I send in. Inconvenient? Maybe if I were sending hundreds of books each year but I send less than 50 a year. My latest return had a book with a smudge on it and I said "woah, I never noticed that before". But before I jumped on here to blast CGC for ruining my book, I looked back at my video and sure enough, the tiny smudge was present. Memory....why must ye fail me! So much time had passed I forgot what the book looked like. Which is totally understandable consider I look at different comics every week and have ever since that one left my hands. Anyways just trying to clarify the point of your initial post is all. Expand clearly this is what he means. I thought they wear gloves when handling books? Edited April 27, 2022 by Crops068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 10:56 AM, Crops068 said: I thought they wear gloves when handling books? jcjames and jeremy2112 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 12:04 PM, Artboy99 said: Hmmm never noticed that about the no gloves but also it was a year and a half ago and I am getting old. (not as old as @theCapraAegagrus, that dude is ANCIENT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 1:17 PM, Crops068 said: (not as old as @theCapraAegagrus, that dude is ANCIENT) Live look-in of me at my desk: Crops068 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Clone Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 4:37 PM, StillOnly25Cents said: I'm curious how CGC knows they are fingerprints and not footprints They probably assume if it's something released in the last decade that it's footprints. Anything before that is probably fingerprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 12:56 PM, Crops068 said: I thought they wear gloves when handling books? Nope. CGC graders go bareback. Yehaw CHASEnBLUE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 10:14 PM, comicginger1789 said: Nope. CGC graders go bareback. Yehaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzombi Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Soooo....no clarification or response from this single-post person. Okay then. CHASEnBLUE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo74 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 On 5/12/2022 at 8:34 PM, djzombi said: Soooo....no clarification or response from this single-post person. Okay then. On 5/12/2022 at 8:34 PM, djzombi said: Soooo....no clarification or response from this single-post person. Okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo74 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 On 4/25/2022 at 8:50 PM, Artboy99 said: clearly this is what he means. On 4/25/2022 at 8:50 PM, Artboy99 said: clearly this is what he means. Yes.. that is what I meant and now they say 350 (or so) books were “possibly tampered with”… and guess what I have one of those…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo74 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 A civil law suit? This is strike 2… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/5/2024 at 7:14 PM, magoo74 said: A civil law suit? This is strike 2… I can appreciate the lawsuit, but shouldn't it be against the con artist that orchestrated the fraud? Plus, they say they will compensate customers which is pretty reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo74 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 Let’s just say I have lost all confidence in the Certified Guaranty Company… and the way they handled this latest mishap left a lot to be desired. MAR1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
