Administrator CGC Mike Posted September 22, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/21/2022 at 10:57 PM, shadroch said: Just to clarify, Are you part of the decision process or simply the relayer of messages? I only relay the messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 4:30 AM, CGC Mike said: I only relay the messages. I ask because it seems likely a crime may have been commited and you may not want to be the public face of a coverup. You might want to let the Big Boys handle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I don't think that anyone will be asking for Mike's head over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted September 22, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 8:52 AM, shadroch said: I ask because it seems likely a crime may have been commited and you may not want to be the public face of a coverup. You might want to let the Big Boys handle this. I will be posting any findings here in the thread. It's part of my job. Thanks for the concern, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 i sent in 2 copies of Teen Titans #2 in the same submission. One copy was clearly in better grade than the other but when they came back encapsulated the obviously lower grade book was in the slab with the higher grade assigned. It is clear to me that your Ultimate Fallout 4 is a different book. namisgr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzombi Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 10:33 PM, Artboy99 said: i sent in 2 copies of Teen Titans #2 in the same submission. One copy was clearly in better grade than the other but when they came back encapsulated the obviously lower grade book was in the slab with the higher grade assigned. I'm convinced this exact thing happened to me with ASM V.2 #36 (the 9/11 issue with the all-black cover). I sent in two copies; the one with more visible spine tics got a 9.8; the one with fewer came back 9.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted September 23, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2022 I have taken this to PM, and have settled this privately with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 glad to see it settled, I hope to OP's satisfaction I hope we can get a statement at some point in the future to restore confidence. It doesn't have to be specific ("we are aware of the circumstances surrounding this book and have modified our processes to eliminate the chance of similar occurrences in the future") but this seems like sweeping it under the rug, but we still know it is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) On 9/21/2022 at 12:04 PM, arinya said: Wow…great to see that CGC is actually paying attention. I have a different issue with the same book. I might make a post about it and see if it’s worth resending. Other WOW too. What a giant tell-tale! This gives us a big glimpse of "what is going on with CGC/CCS" incident. We should take the pictures of the books before submitting them. Make sure all books are yours not theirs. Edited September 25, 2022 by JollyComics Upgrayedd2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 10:53 AM, JollyComics said: Other WOW too. What a giant tell-tale! This gives us a big glimpse of "what is going on with CGC/CCS" incident. We should take the pictures of the books before submitting them. Make sure all books are yours not theirs. Absolutely. If the OP hadn't been so astute, he never would've known. Show of hands - how many here think this is the first time something like this has happened? Now another show of hands - how many here think that every time this has happened, the owner has caught it? JollyComics and Juno Beach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 10:07 AM, Gaard said: Absolutely. If the OP hadn't been so astute, he never would've known. Show of hands - how many here think this is the first time something like this has happened? Now another show of hands - how many here think that every time this has happened, the owner has caught it? Exactly, I am doing it right now. Every time, I submitted my books. Most of their grades are agreeable and few grades made me inside-down (I still wondered if those books were not mine). I wanted to thank OP for making me thinking twice. CGC/CCS has been inconsistent since 2020 and I have to protect my investment and I DON'T pay for their inconsistency and mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzombi Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Was an NDA signed or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I'm feeling like I'll eventually need to know what happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mgc015 Posted September 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Basically, one of two things happened. My book was switched on purpose or switched on accident. Either way, I have realized I will not be getting my book back. It’s not like it has just gone missing and will turn up eventually. Someone else has it and that sucks. CGC has settled this with me. Seems like they know I was wronged. You have to have the photos to back it up. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they didnt review their own photos to prove this. Make sure to take photos! CGC Mike only told me he would make a general statement and I am free to say what I want. No NDA. No legal papers. Just a promise that they made to try to make up for what happened. Am I happy? Absolutely not. He said they will continue to investigate and try to find my book, but we all know that they won’t find it. So what else are my options? They made an offer that I thought would give me the best result from a very bad situation. So I guess I’m satisfied that they tried to make up for my loss. Other than giving me my book back, I felt this was best for me. I just hope they learn from it. There’s no way a book should be allowed to be switched on accident if they have proper protocols in place. Books need to stay separate from other books. And if someone took it, maybe they can try to find when it got switched in the process and who did it and have them arrested. Thanks to CGC MIke for emailing me personally and helping me out. Edited September 26, 2022 by Mgc015 silverseeker, Sigur Ros, Juno Beach and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Swapping a book while under video surveillance would be beyond idiotic. Do graders take their work home with them? This shouldnt be a hard case to solve and I hope we are kept in the loop. This is a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 There's only one thing we know for sure ... you didn't get the same book back. CGC can say whatever they want (accidental, deliberate, or theft) and there's nothing to do but take them at their word. That's not to say you have to believe what they told you, but there's no way to prove otherwise. Seriously, why would they say anything other than what makes them look the least inept? I'm glad they offered you something. Whatever it is they offered, I can tell by your post, it wasn't sufficient enough to make you happy ... and that should be their goal, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgrayedd2 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 So glad you took pics prior to submitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 A theft occured in house. If CGC can't root out how it happened, it will happen again. Does CGC care? I'm looking for the evidence they do, but all I'm seeing is them trying to make the situation go away quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 9/20/2022 at 9:04 AM, Sigur Ros said: Only at CGC would this be a 9.6 ... While so many of my 90's off-the-shelf, never opened, barely touched books get the same grade. Just absurd Imagine paying the 9.6 price for this turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 1:44 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: Just absurd Imagine paying the 9.6 price for this turd Yeah, I missed this thread back when it happened and only found out about it on another comic site. Not only was the book replaced, there's no way that should be a 9.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
