Popular Post fsumavila Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Checking out the prices today on CAL and can't help but laugh at some of the absolutely absurd prices. I also noticed several dealers trotting out some familiar pieces with higher prices than they've had on their sites. I'm sure some sellers have things priced to sell, but I didn't see much. I don't think I'll waste my time looking tomorrow. Did anyone else have better luck? Anyone buy anything?? Stefanomjr, Twanj, comichut and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvin Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Yeah, I bought 1 piece and sold 3. The item I bought was a few hundred more than the 3 I sold You are right. Many pieces had aspirational pricing. Malvin Edited November 12, 2022 by malvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud cloddie Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 There’s some interesting stuff up, but nothing that’s more interesting than what’s up at auction next week. Some fun stuff, but lots of deja vu and lofty asks. Got on a commission list and that’s it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyflow33 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Same as others have said, prices are nuts. The commission prices, when they're posted, are optimistic to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I had a great piece pop up in my want list email at an insane price, only to appear live another 20% higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andahaion Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I bought a modestly priced contemporary/modern cover. I missed it last CAF Live, and the seller worked with me a bit. Overall happy with it, but pricing is making decision making more difficult. After I bought it I basically tuned out and quit looking. The pre-show want list email alerts didn’t really work for me. I received one email with one piece of art in it. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC25427N Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 7:41 PM, Andahaion said: I bought a modestly priced contemporary/modern cover. I missed it last CAF Live, and the seller worked with me a bit. Overall happy with it, but pricing is making decision making more difficult. After I bought it I basically tuned out and quit looking. The pre-show want list email alerts didn’t really work for me. I received one email with one piece of art in it. Did you click the keyword links? The email takes you to a page that has all your keywords on it and you have to click each keyword individually to see the results that it found for each one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexG_art Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Not naming names but someone bought a commission homage piece for $7500 (charity) a few months ago. Then, I see that same piece posted today for $30,000 by the same buyer. It's not even published... Hockeyflow33, Sean I and Twanj 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstoppablejayd Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I bought a great silvestri X-men page for a reasonable price.. so no complaints here.. yes some of the asks are aspirational but why wouldn't they be?? With the auction results and how far those dollars go in art.. it seems not smart if you aren't aggressive . Michael Browning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Turner Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I saw a page from a key first appearance, and I also have a page from that book. It seemed to be much higher than I would’ve valued it, but I’m hoping I’m wrong because that would mean my page is quite valuable! Watching it to see if it sells 🤞🏻 fsumavila and Twanj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New School Fool Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Continues on from the last Comic Art Live I thought it was a one off with the crazy pricing but obviously I was mistaken. I'm sure we all saw the absurdity of the 5 mil price tag on the ASM #300 cover. It's laughable, especially as we all know how much he bought it for. This changes the way I feel about him and all other 'collectors' trying to take advantage. Scambags, the lot of them. Edit: I was going to joke on how a lot of the Comic Art Live listings will end up in the attempted flip of the day thread, and sadly that actually seems to be the case. Edited November 13, 2022 by New School Fool Lee B., Twanj, Sean I and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andahaion Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 10:22 PM, JC25427N said: Did you click the keyword links? The email takes you to a page that has all your keywords on it and you have to click each keyword individually to see the results that it found for each one Man do I feel like an insufficiently thoughtful person! I was on my phone when I received the email and did not realize each of my keywords was its own link. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJRome Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 3:20 AM, New School Fool said: Continues on from the last Comic Art Live I thought it was a one off with the crazy pricing but obviously I was mistaken. I'm sure we all saw the absurdity of the 5 mil price tag on the ASM #300 cover. It's laughable, especially as we all know how much he bought it for. This changes the way I feel about him and all other 'collectors' trying to take advantage. Scambags, the lot of them. Edit: I was going to joke on how a lot of the Comic Art Live listings will end up in the attempted flip of the day thread, and sadly that actually seems to be the case. Maybe you should open a gallery & show them how it's done. Michael Browning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bird Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 8:17 AM, DJRome said: Maybe you should open a gallery & show them how it's done. this is the oldest and weakest response to criticism ever - shoot the messenger while ignoring the message I read his post as a buyer's perspective, never said he could do it better. You do not have to sell to have an opinion on buying/pricing blizzardtonight, fsumavila, jjonahjameson11 and 7 others 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 There are few pieces I’d like to own , but I too, feel like they are 20-30% priced higher than even I’d pay , and so they sit , for the moment , unsold Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Judas Hel Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I’ve bought a few pieces during past Comic Art Cons and while they are a few pieces that interest me but nothing in particular jumps out at me as an instant buy. The items that interest me are out of my budget range and a couple of sellers have reached out to me about price reductions but I will wait and see if the Sunday drops hold anything that’s right up my alley. There is piece that I would love to have upcoming on Heritage but I have absolutely no luck on that site but that may be because of my own misunderstanding of the workings of their auction rules. I’d like to keep any funds to buy the Heritage piece but I know I probably won’t reasonably win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Browning Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 3:20 AM, New School Fool said: Continues on from the last Comic Art Live I thought it was a one off with the crazy pricing but obviously I was mistaken. I'm sure we all saw the absurdity of the 5 mil price tag on the ASM #300 cover. It's laughable, especially as we all know how much he bought it for. This changes the way I feel about him and all other 'collectors' trying to take advantage. Scambags, the lot of them. Edit: I was going to joke on how a lot of the Comic Art Live listings will end up in the attempted flip of the day thread, and sadly that actually seems to be the case. This is the attitude that is becoming more and more prevalent in our hobby and it's making it a lot less fun. The entire comment -- and especially calling him a "scambag" -- also reeks of envy and bitterness at what others have that you do not have. It's unfortunate that people in the comic art collecting community are so envious of others' collections that they can't enjoy this great hobby and they have to try to tear others down to be happy. I'm involved in other collecting communities and the envy and bitterness seems to be the worst in the comic art world. Who cares what someone paid for a piece of art? If someone gets a page of art at a yard sale for a buck, does that mean he or she should only sell it for a buck fifty? Come on. Comic art is an investment, no matter how much people say it's not. When I sell, I'm not going to ask exactly what I gave for a piece and trade dollars for dollars. The price the seller is asking for the Amazing Spider-Man #300 cover is, I'm sure, what it would take to get him to sell. He's one of the best guys in the hobby and is definitely not a scammer. You should reach out to him and discuss the asking price of the ASM #300 cover art before you start attacking him. That being said, the prices in this CAF Live are very aspirational/aggressive/optimistic and, I believe, based directly on high auction results. The prices are high and I've not seen a whole lot of the higher-priced pieces sell, but, I think that's because there isn't the bidding frenzy and fear of missing out that is caused by an auction. A lot of the pieces up for sale are covers and pages that have been for sale for a long time and people have seen them increase in value while sitting on websites, unsold, all this time. I understand that many people are upset over the rising prices and a lot of people complain that they are "priced out" of the hobby, but nothing has changed in the 20+ years I've been collecting. Byrne Uncanny X-Men was higher than I could afford then, just like it is now, but there are plenty of pieces that I can afford and enjoy that Byrne drew that cost a fraction of a UXM page. There are also options for people to buy that are cheap -- $100 or less -- every day. There are plenty in this CAF Live, proving anyone can own a piece of original art. One option is to go check eBay. I still pick up very cheap pages there. Heck, I have been selling cheap pages for years for $50-$100. Last year, I put up some very nice Marvel and DC pages for $100 each and couldn't get anyone to buy (except a guy who wanted to make payments on a $50 page ... at a few dollars a month...). I just bought a whole bunch of pages for $50 each, so I know the bargains are still out there to be had. When I got into then hobby, I just wanted original art. I was so fascinated by the process and holding in my hands a piece of a comic book's creation that I would buy whatever I could afford -- meaning I bought pages that were far less than $50 in most cases, all the while keeping my hopes up that, one day, I could afford a cover. I never once hated other collectors for having more than me or owning art I could never afford. I find the most happiness and satisfaction in what I am blessed to own and I'm glad for everyone who has the art they have. Will_K, AndyFish and fsumavila 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Browning Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 12:29 AM, Unstoppablejayd said: I bought a great silvestri X-men page for a reasonable price.. so no complaints here.. yes some of the asks are aspirational but why wouldn't they be?? With the auction results and how far those dollars go in art.. it seems not smart if you aren't aggressive . I agree 100% with this. While there are aggressive asking prices in CAF Live, sellers should not be expected to sell at 2002 prices. And dealers are competing with auctions to stay afloat in this hobby. It's tough for them to get great pieces nowadays and they have to adjust their prices to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New School Fool Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 4:06 PM, Michael Browning said: This is the attitude that is becoming more and more prevalent in our hobby and it's making it a lot less fun. The entire comment -- and especially calling him a "scambag" -- also reeks of envy and bitterness at what others have that you do not have. It's unfortunate that people in the comic art collecting community are so envious of others' collections that they can't enjoy this great hobby and they have to try to tear others down to be happy. I'm involved in other collecting communities and the envy and bitterness seems to be the worst in the comic art world. I anticipated a response like this. Dude, you've totally misunderstood me. I understand the importance of the ASM #300 cover but believe me, I am far from jealous about owning it. You couldn't be more wrong. And bitter? Wrong again. It's more sadness I feel. Sad that this hobby has come to this. While you think Dinesh my be 'one of the best guys in the hobby', unfortunately with a move like this I see him as greedy and opportunistic. I'm sad that new collectors could be coming to the hobby to be taken advantage of in this way. Of course he's well within his right to sell whatever piece he likes and make a profit. This piece should go for A LOT of money. 5 mil though? Come on, let's be serious here. *This* is the source of my displeasure. The Secret Wars page went for 3 mil which we all know was a gross over payment. The Dark Knight returns hammer price was probably well suited to it's legacy and importantance in the hobby. To price this piece at almost twice the secret Wars #8 page is an insulting joke that I don't feel 'the nicest person in the hobby' would even think of making. Finally, I totally understand If that's what it takes for him to let go of the piece. I'm pretty sure he's refused many offers. But why use Comic Art Live to make such a blatantly over exaggerated offer? I would like to recommend CAF to any new person in the hobby and hope they'll be in safe hands. Now, I really don't think that's the case. lb jefferies, artdealer, Will_K and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post t3quila Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 4:09 PM, Michael Browning said: And dealers are competing with auctions to stay afloat in this hobby. It's tough for them to get great pieces nowadays and they have to adjust their prices to keep up. Yes, won't someone think of the poor dealers vodou, New School Fool, Sean I and 13 others 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
