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First Generation CGC Holders (2000-03)
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newshane

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On 12/23/2022 at 7:44 PM, Brandon Shepherd said:

CGC has since stated that all of their holders are archival safe, and changing the holder every several years is not necessary. 

Some people believe the microchamber paper should be changed out every decade or so. I think that was the argument. Loving the current gen slab. Hopefully they don't keep changing it every few years, but I guess it makes sense from a business standpoint.

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Sigur Ros

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On 12/23/2022 at 8:44 PM, Brandon Shepherd said:

CGC has since stated that all of their holders are archival safe, and changing the holder every several years is not necessary. 

Yes. The competition created cases where that was actually true.  CGC couldn't expect people to keep paying for reholders and be the only place that recommended it.

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Brandon Shepherd

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On 12/24/2022 at 7:01 AM, Sigur Ros said:

Yes. The competition created cases where that was actually true.  CGC couldn't expect people to keep paying for reholders and be the only place that recommended it.

I asked about CGC’s methods for removing books from holders in the Quality Control thread. One boardie responded saying CGC can only use the same methods we use, a screwdriver, scissors and a prayer. I know that response wasn’t from CGC themselves, but I was wondering if they somehow use the same methods to unseal the inner wells as they do to seal them, like if placing a slab in the sealing mechanism can also unseal the holder without having to use a screwdriver. Maybe I’m being naïve and uninformed. 

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Brandon Shepherd

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On 12/22/2022 at 6:46 PM, valiantman said:

The old style ended about July 2003, with the old red labels for modern books ending in August 2001.

About 30,000 of the modern red label were created, and no doubt, many are now gone, cracked out, resubmitted, etc. 

99.7% (or more) of all slabs are something other than a modern red label from 2000 to 2001.

About 300,000 of the old blue label were created, which would mean that 96.5% of all slabs (and increasing daily) are in the "big grade number" era.

The first "big grade number" labels were used for 13 years, but there were only about 2.5 million created.

The current label style has been around for a little over 6 years, but it's already on 67% of all slabs (nearly 6,000,000). 

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Do we still go “+1” on posts we really like, or is that old board etiquette no longer around? Either way, thank you for the stats, love it! 

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Brandon Shepherd

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On 12/24/2022 at 7:32 AM, Stealth_Bomber said:

There is a special tool you can buy cheap on Amazon that CGC recommended early on, but of course I can't remember what it's called. It looked kinda like a church key bottle opener?

I think I know what you’re talking about. These current generation holders are a bizznatch to crack open.

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On 12/24/2022 at 9:25 AM, Brandon Shepherd said:

I asked about CGC’s methods for removing books from holders in the Quality Control thread. One boardie responded saying CGC can only use the same methods we use, a screwdriver, scissors and a prayer. I know that response wasn’t from CGC themselves, but I was wondering if they somehow use the same methods to unseal the inner wells as they do to seal them, like if placing a slab in the sealing mechanism can also unseal the holder without having to use a screwdriver. Maybe I’m being naïve and uninformed. 

CGC cases are loose and sloppy.  I've never used anything other than my fingers.

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I buy the brow label books once in a while. Some people say they grading was tighter back then, which is not correct. Most people submitting in that period did not press out their comics first, so it is easy to get a grade bump (unless of course it graded out as a 9.8 to begin with). I avoid the next gen thin blue cases like the plague. The grading absolutely loosened in that period and it is common to see a drop in grade with a crack press and resub. 

 

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On 12/24/2022 at 9:30 AM, Sal said:

can't ever free this one; i dont want to lose the sticker lol

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Let me know if you decide to sell!!! :banana: 

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On 12/23/2022 at 1:06 PM, Stealth_Bomber said:

They don't exist, you're thinking of Wizard First.

I thought I had seen one (a CGC 9.5) posted somewhere on these Boards.  If I find it, I'll re-post it here.

 

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southern cross

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Love the old slabs.

Haven't bothered to re-slab any 

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I like the old slabs as the books were more then likely not pressed as it was not the thing at the time.

And I wonder with humidifiers and pressing books done today will that promote oxidation of the staples?

Just a thought.

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On 12/24/2022 at 7:02 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:
On 12/24/2022 at 5:42 PM, musicmeta said:

Might be time to just go ahead and do it I suppose.

Considering the current QC issues, I’d consider waiting a little longer. 

Damaged in re-encapsulation. :eyeroll:

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On 12/24/2022 at 8:05 PM, lizards2 said:

Damaged in re-encapsulation. :eyeroll:

That $h*t happened to me a few years back.

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I got an email from CGC saying the book wouldn’t receive the same grade, looks like the bottom of the back cover took a hit.

The book was pressed and regraded, now it sits in an ugly @$$ black pedigree label.

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