theCapraAegagrus Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 7:40 PM, troy.division said: Truthfully, most have been to at least one museum in our lifetime with replica / museum-quality casts of dinosaur fossils or replica spacecraft. That's interesting. I will just say then, that for myself, I wouldn't go to a museum that didn't have at least mostly originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 silverseeker, thehumantorch, greggy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Panel Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) On 3/23/2023 at 2:41 PM, Dark Knight said: It was tough to see during the interview with the owner how emotional he was talking about how it took years of work to put all this up together and now it's been stripped away That video immediately changed my impression of the owner and made me really empathize with him. In the OP video, he seemed pretty chipper but kept going on about how many display cases had been damaged. All I could think was "Really? You're bummed about the display cases?" That would be like me getting my collection stolen and grousing about all the bags and boards I lost. When I saw the second video and he was choked up talking about the books he lost and his personal connection to them, my heart immediately went out to the guy. He wasn't just some disinterested docent; those were his books! I really hope he gets everything back, and I actually think his chances are good. Maybe not the She-Hulks, but if those thieving dummies try to move a Captain America #1 with a "Bonnetts Book Store" stamp they will quickly find their room and board furnished by the Elkhart police. Edited March 25, 2023 by Off Panel a word Dark Knight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 The stolen books: Spoiler thehumantorch and Dark Knight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) I have been gone to Elkhart many times. That is where we meet with my parents in law at halfway point. My kids are riding with their grandparents to Ohio. My wife and I drive home back to Chicago. It's only 2.5 hours from Chicago to Elkhart. I never visited that museum but the town is so dull and slight rundown town. Nothing is excited in Elkhart. I strongly have suspected both thieves are locals (both guys look white to me) and they may be caught soon. Some books are so rare and I am sure they will be caught. Edited March 25, 2023 by JollyComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 12:41 PM, Dark Knight said: Also an idea, but the owner should at the very least take home the expensive books instead of leaving them in the displays overnight... Especially without having insurance to cover for any potential losses/damages. Hopefully the books can be recovered and thieves caught. It was tough to see during the interview with the owner how emotional he was talking about how it took years of work to put all this up together and now it's been stripped away Not discounting your idea but taking the best books home overnight has it's risks. They could be damaged if dropped or if you were in a car accident and if some thief knew your pattern they might rob you as you were leaving the museum and now you could be risking your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 6:57 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: Someone answered this question, too. In the case of an LCS, buyers want to inspect the actual product. A LCS in Vancouver has photocopies of their best books on the wall. You have to make an appointment to inspect their good books. greggy and troydivision1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poekaymon Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 2:41 PM, Dark Knight said: Also an idea, but the owner should at the very least take home the expensive books instead of leaving them in the displays overnight... Especially without having insurance to cover for any potential losses/damages. Hopefully the books can be recovered and thieves caught. It was tough to see during the interview with the owner how emotional he was talking about how it took years of work to put all this up together and now it's been stripped away Taking stuff home every night doesn't really seem practical to me, but yeah, should probably have insurance. Even alarms and security gates aren't enough. A while back I owned a computer store and we had a high end alarm system and also a high end security gate in the front and the back for nights. One time some thieves broke into another building that was in our complex, and which didn't have much security, and then crawled through the ventilation and came down into our store. Grabbed a bunch of stuff and went back the way they came. Set off the alarm but they still got away with a bunch of stuff and were never apprehended, but we did get most of it back through insurance. Off Panel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:45 AM, BlowUpTheMoon said: The stolen books: Reveal hidden contents Cap 1 has Bonnett's stamp, both Cap 37 and Giant size X-Men #1 have signatures, the defects on Hulk 1 can be identifiable and TOS 39 has color touch. How often do we see Young Allies #1? It's rare so it can be found. Once all books are found and can be identifiable easily. I hope all books are back to the rightful owner immediately. WolverineX, silverseeker, thehumantorch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I think you will find many times insurance isn't all its cracked up to be. Have heard many stories over the years when you got the claim the insurance company will twist and turn any way they can to get out of it. Make sure you read your fine print before you sign. NP_Gresham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 2:22 PM, JollyComics said: Cap 1 has Bonnett's stamp, both Cap 37 and Giant size X-Men #1 have signatures, the defects on Hulk 1 can be identifiable and TOS 39 has color touch. How often do we see Young Allies #1? It's rare so it can be found. Once all books are found and can be identifiable easily. I hope all books are back to the rightful owner immediately. Agreed. Unless the thieves don't resell, these will be found again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 A helpful hint. If you have $200,000 worth of stuff and can't afford insurance- sell some of it and insure the $195,000 you still have. Crime sucks. As does not buying insurance. I hope it works out for them jcjames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:49 PM, shadroch said: A helpful hint. If you have $200,000 worth of stuff and can't afford insurance- sell some of it and insure the $195,000 you still have. Crime sucks. As does not buying insurance. I hope it works out for them Of course making that claim would probably make your policy no longer financially feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 8:58 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: Of course making that claim would probably make your policy no longer financially feasible. I can think of worse problems to have. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 8:01 AM, Robot Man said: No insurance, cheap, crappy display cases, no security? A disaster just waiting to happen. Sadly, people just don’t pay attention or figure it will never happen to them… Books like that are bound to turn up and hopefully they get them back and the scum that took them are locked up! How does a business NOT have insurance on such huge-ticket items???? Man, that sucks - thieves! Hope they catch those lowlifes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 10:49 PM, shadroch said: A helpful hint. If you have $200,000 worth of stuff and can't afford insurance- sell some of it and insure the $195,000 you still have. Crime sucks. As does not buying insurance. I hope it works out for them This is similar to having millions of dollars in comics yet crowd-funding a documentary about your comics. troydivision1 and fishbone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If you are not going to carry insurance, at least move the more expensive items like the high value comics to a more secure location (like a safe) after hours. Leaving stuff out in the open, barely secured is only inviting problems. Robot Man and batmiesta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 1:10 PM, thehumantorch said: A LCS in Vancouver has photocopies of their best books on the wall. You have to make an appointment to inspect their good books. Well, on the one hand, someone like me just wouldn't waste my time. On the other hand, it can't get stolen from the store location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 1:10 PM, thehumantorch said: A LCS in Vancouver has photocopies of their best books on the wall. You have to make an appointment to inspect their good books. That's what John Verzyl did. Had a huge binder of photocopies. thehumantorch and greggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) I don't believe the owner doesn't have the safe box. Gary Colabuono kept his ultra-rare old DC ashcan copies in the safe box at the bank for years but you have to make sure to not miss the monthly payment. Banks can access your safe boxes and sell them off. Chuck Rozanski's comic book warehouse was burglarized four years ago and I don't believe that he has a safe box but all valuable books are in the glass displays until someone smashed them and snatched the books, similar to Hall of Heroes - similar entry point at the back door. Both have the security cameras. The lone burglar was arrested for stealing the comic books at Mile High Comics - https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/arrest-made-in-theft-of-comic-books-worth-49000/73-9e16a225-ea5e-4884-b94b-768d7a2ad8d9 It took about 3 weeks to catch this d-bag. Hopefully, two burglars will be arrested soon. It's better to have the safe box(es) at the location or safe box(es) at the bank. Edited March 28, 2023 by JollyComics Moondog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
