iae21 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Wanted to get others thoughts on this. Thought I had a higher-grade ASM 16 (originally CGC 7.5) which after a solid cleaning/press got a 7.0 grade. Grader notes only note the excess red INK transfer on the center right cover. The thing is, if you look closely, its not red ink from the Daredevil glove that got smudged by someone. You can see the detail and inking of the glove. Rather, it looks like the factory printer was bleeding the red ink a bit a smudged it at factory. Should this have been graded so low? Or is this something that CGC should have not downgraded the book on? Edited February 27 by iae21 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 That's a hard one. I'd imagine that too much red on the cover would turn off most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topnotchman Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Grader Notes ink transfer left center of front cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topnotchman Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Transfer stains are factored into the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Still a nice solid copy, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmovies Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 looks like a kid let a cherry popsicle melt right on the side. second from right for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kosnik Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 2/26/2024 at 8:07 PM, iae21 said: Wanted to get others thoughts on this. Thought I had a higher-grade ASM 16 (originally CGC 7.5) which after a solid cleaning/press got a 7.0 grade. Grader notes only note the excess red INK transfer on the center right cover. The thing is, if you look closely, its not red ink from the Daredevil glove that got smudged by someone. You can see the detail and inking of the glove. Rather, it looks like the factory printer was bleeding the red ink a bit a smudged it at factory. Should this have been graded so low? Or is this something that CGC should have not downgraded the book on? Unless all of the copies of this book have this flaw (which they don't), this seems fair/correct to me. CGC is trying to give a prospective buyer confidence in the item. As there are copies of this book that are just as nice without the red ink, this one should not be graded as if the red ink were not there. Also for what it's worth, if the ink is not known for all examples, then it's impossible to say the ink didn't happen later, after production, or during poor storage when this comic was stacked against another with a red ink cover that transferred or some other event. Given these two issues, i think they did the correct thing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...