What happened to.....

[Eternal]

Carnage.....who was the total bad of comics .....well when he first appeared anyways by just killing people at random. I left comics for about 2 years and I see no mention of him anywheres.....the last i read of him was Carnage:Mindbomb or something like that. Can someone help and let me know if he appeared anywhere in the comic series again. Thank you.

[Guest]

Carnage was the victim of a brutal, near-unspeakable comic book crime....

 

Overexposure.

 

I think he last appeared late in the Spectacular Spidey series.

[Guest]

Looked it up in the Standard Catalog...

 

The last I see of Carnage is in 1996 - Web of Carnage - ending in Spectacular 233.

[Hensley300]

Who? Overexposure? That is an understatement. Though I do believe they way rushed the storyline. I think the black costume was a cool addition to amaz. spider-man till it went solo. After that, everyone who was still reading comics was wondering what the hell was going on. Then they quit buying

[Guest]

The story with five different symbiotes didn't help, either...

[Hensley300]

Yea, I can barely keep up with one symbiotic relationship *my marriage* much less two

[murph0]

Yeh, speaking as a Spiderman reader during that time period..there was never a point in time where the story didnt have something to do with one of those symbiotes..it was extremely lame.

 

Brian

[blowout]

........carnage actually did start off quite well in the first few issues of ASM he appeared in.............but as usual marvel took it way too far and pushed the guy over the edge..............and straight down readers throats..............

 

............now they probably couln't sell a book with him in it if it was gold plated.......

[Rubicon]

I liked Venom as a bad guy. None of that Lethal Protector garbage or the many other limited series he appeared in? Does anyone actually know how many ?? The first Carnage story was decent. Maximum Carnage was a waste of paper. The one-shots were horrible. I was going through some comics and I stumbled upon "Planet of the Symboites" Super-Size Specials in a 5 part series. I saw Scarlet Spider on the cover of one and to my better judgement I did not read it. Is this what ended it for Carnage? I was not reading at that time and I quit collecting for about 5 years after that.

 

What was the last appearance of Venom??

[delekkerste]

GAAAACK!!! If Carnage and Venom never appear in another issue of Spidey, I will

stay a happy man. I oppose any storylines involving alien symbiotes, evil alien costumes,

Mary Jane as a supermodel actress...IMHO, Spidey should be about what he was in

the blockbuster movie - the guy with growing pains and real life problems. The kind of

guy you can relate to!

 

I don't know how many guys can relate to a Peter Parker who's married to a swimsuit

model, fighting alien costumes, going on book signings across the country, living in a

deluxe condo...that's why I despise the McFarlane run on ASM and why almost every

issue of Spidey in the 1990s is unreadable. Thank God that JMS has brought Petey

more or less back to basics.

 

Gene

[murph0]

I think a couple characters Spiderman should've seen more action against in those issues were Cardiac, Rhino, and Man Mountain Marko..they just got too repetitive for too long there and it almost killed off the new issue fan base.

 

Brian

[Samruby]

Eternal,

 

Carnage was last seen in a two-part story in Webspinners #13-14 where he received his lost powers back while in the Negative Zone.

 

Simultaneously, he appeared in PP: Spider-Man #13-14 where he was without his powers.

 

BTW: Venom is slated to appear in the new Spectacular Spider-Man series with a new 5 story arc by Paul Jenkins afater the current Spider-Man ends after its 52 nd issue,

 

We may very well see a (possibly small) "surge" in demand of the early Venom appearances in a couple months.

 

Eric

[fantastic_four]

I'll agree that it's hard for the majority of people to relate to going out with a supermodel, but relating to fighting alien symbiotes doesn't wash. Who could relate to him fighting a guy with metal arms, a man transformed into a lizard, a wearing a vulture flying suit, or a guy with the ability to turn his body into sand?

 

Venom isn't much more outlandish than any of Spidey's other villains; his powers are just MUCH, MUCH cooler.

[dolphinsrwj]

i hear venom will also be in ultimate spiderman #30 and i really think they should bring back carnage he is a bad mfr.i also would like to see cardiac some in the new stuff.i hear that mark bagley hates to draw venom,

[delekkerste]

I'll agree that it's hard for the majority of people to relate to going out with a

supermodel, but relating to fighting alien symbiotes doesn't wash. Who could

relate to him fighting a guy with metal arms, a man transformed into a lizard, a

wearing a vulture flying suit, or a guy with the ability to turn his body

into sand?

 

Au contraire...you miss the beauty of the characterization of the old Lee/Ditko

characters. These are all characters with human weaknesses that we can relate

to. The brilliant family man Curt Connors who, in a moment of weakness about his

disability, performs an experiment on himself that turns him into a savage reptile that

threatens his family.

 

Yeah, I can relate to that human failing. I cannot, however, relate to a hissing Jaws-like

piece of extraterrestrial former clothing where the writers never had him say anything

remotely intelligent!

 

Gene

[comicinvestor-migration]

I actually liked Venom in his initial incarnation, basically as a pissed off loser who melded with Spidey's old suit. He was mean, tough and basically a good anti-Spidey villain.

 

But Marvel is never satisfied with a good thing and Venom got all wired up with his ultra-lame and over-used "Oh no, I muzzzt save the Innocentzzzz" act, then got over-exposed, became a hero for a bit, and basically Marvel toasted him for good.

 

Woe be the Marvel villain who becomes popular...

[Samruby]

Venom gets "ultimized" in USM #33, but we get to see Ultimate Chameleon before that:)

 

I could do without seeing Carnage anytime too soon, also:)

 

Eric