PGM Tec 405

[october]

No creases on the top edge, that's part of the art.

 

 

[KingOfRulers]

8.5

[october]

8.5

 

Why? The only flaws are maybe three or four 1/16 spine tics and the slightly rough top edge. What are you seeing?

[blowout]

8.5

 

Why? The only flaws are maybe three or four 1/16 spine tics and the slightly rough top edge. What are you seeing?

 

Bindery tear LLC?

[october]

8.5

 

Why? The only flaws are maybe three or four 1/16 spine tics and the slightly rough top edge. What are you seeing?

 

Bindery tear LLC?

 

Yep, very small.

[blowout]

8.5

 

Why? The only flaws are maybe three or four 1/16 spine tics and the slightly rough top edge. What are you seeing?

 

Bindery tear LLC?

 

Yep, very small.

 

Is that a couple of dints in the bottom edge towards the centre of the back cover?

 

And what is the black 'line' near the LRC egde on the back cover?

[october]

8.5

 

Why? The only flaws are maybe three or four 1/16 spine tics and the slightly rough top edge. What are you seeing?

 

Bindery tear LLC?

 

Yep, very small.

 

Is that a couple of dints in the bottom edge towards the centre of the back cover?

 

And what is the black 'line' near the LRC egde on the back cover?

 

Scanner trick.

 

Not sure what you are looking at. Do you meant the nutsack crease on the back lower left?

[blowout]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

[october]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

 

Yeah, like I said, nutsack crease.

[blowout]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

 

Yeah, like I said, nutsack crease.

 

In that case I will go 8.5 also.

[october]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

 

Yeah, like I said, nutsack crease.

 

In that case I will go 8.5 also.

 

Production creases don't affect the grade. Newb!

[blowout]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

 

Yeah, like I said, nutsack crease.

 

In that case I will go 8.5 also.

 

Production creases don't affect the grade. Newb!

 

Grading is subjective. Super Newb!

[october]

There is what looks like a crease below and to the left of the car headlight.

 

Yeah, like I said, nutsack crease.

 

In that case I will go 8.5 also.

 

Production creases don't affect the grade. Newb!

 

Grading is subjective. Super Newb!

 

A production defect is a production defect. If they take off for that they should take off for miswraps, miscuts, staple misalignment, ect, ect, ect. I don't make the rules, I just follow em.

[RickHigh]

DC 8.5. That's a very nice book!

[blowout]

 

A production defect is a production defect. If they take off for that they should take off for miswraps, miscuts, staple misalignment, ect, ect, ect. I don't make the rules, I just follow em.

 

'They' being CGC?

In my opinion this book would get a CGC grade of 8.5 given the defects it displays.

 

You are correct though that the production crease and bindery tear probably wouldn't affect the grade at this level. Of course, they are defects nevertheless and will affect the grade that some would personally asign to the book.

[Clanof7]

Nice 8.5

[october]

 

A production defect is a production defect. If they take off for that they should take off for miswraps, miscuts, staple misalignment, ect, ect, ect. I don't make the rules, I just follow em.

 

'They' being CGC?

In my opinion this book would get a CGC grade of 8.5 given the defects it displays.

 

You are correct though that the production crease and bindery tear probably wouldn't affect the grade at this level. Of course, they are defects nevertheless and will affect the grade that some would personally asign to the book.

 

Well, personally I take wrap and production defects into account when assigning value to a book, but the current standards (OSGG and CGC) say that they should not be figured into technical grade. You and I might not pay as much for a book with a fugly miswrap (and we both agree it SHOULD factor into the overall grade) but the current standards just don't agree with us. If the book is a 9.0 without the prod. crease, it should be a 9.0 with it. Doesn't mean both books have the same value.

[divad]

Both the top edge and bottom edge are a little rough . . . 8.5

[october]

Both the top edge and bottom edge are a little rough . . . 8.5

 

Nothing wrong with the bottom edge. Bottom left front is part of the art and the back is just fine. No idea why it looks that way in the scan.

[Point Five]

Wow, my books really got off easy this week!

 

IMO production crease has absolutely no effect on grade...& I've seen plenty of CGC 9.2 ASM #64s (to pick a random example) that have them on the FRONT cover. Even with the light wear back cover edges & bottom corner ding, the Tec looks like a solid 9.0 to me.