Amazing Spiderman Collecting Thread!
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On 11/22/2021 at 5:19 PM, Straw-Man said:

is there a new 8.0/white game afoot???

:signfunny:Haha not quite…
All my other Spidey books are 8.0 and higher.  13 of them (out of 33) happen to be in grade 8.0 though lol

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On 11/23/2021 at 5:18 PM, Kevin76 said:

Funny, I'll live with ow/w but anything below that i'll pass on.  

My general rule is:

  • 9.8:  nothing but WP is acceptable unless we're talking about some freakishly old 9.8 where the census number is low, and I generally don't buy those kinds of books in 9.8 anyway
  • 9.6:  would only settle for OW/W in rare circumstances
  • 8.0 - 9.4:  OW/W is perfectly acceptable, don't want to settle for OW unless it's early Silver Age and I really have to
  • below 8.0:  OW or better strongly preferred, routinely settle for less on pre-hero books
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On 11/23/2021 at 5:46 PM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

My general rule is:

  • 9.8:  nothing but WP is acceptable unless we're talking about some freakishly old 9.8 where the census number is low, and I generally don't buy those kinds of books in 9.8 anyway
  • 9.6:  would only settle for OW/W in rare circumstances
  • 8.0 - 9.4:  OW/W is perfectly acceptable, don't want to settle for OW unless it's early Silver Age and I really have to
  • below 8.0:  OW or better strongly preferred, routinely settle for less on pre-hero books

Definitely. I'd never buy a Bronze-Present without white pages.  Silver age I stick to OW/W or better.  Golden age...Crm/OW depending on how rare the book is. No Tan unless it's a Detective 27   

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i'm a little less structured here--my criteria:  i love white pages.   i like ow/w pages.   i'm just ok on o/w.   for silver i have avoided c/ow except for a very small group scattered among 3 of the 6 s.a. marvel titles i collect.  i think there are 4 c/ow books, and none are spideys.

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Hope all had a nice holiday weekend.  It seems like mere mortals would fare better with a less-structured (i.e., less picky) approach to page quality if the plan is to complete a PC in a reasonable timeframe, especially during periods of hyper-appreciation for SA keys.   Better to buy SA keys (and more of them) sooner rather than later if prices are generally going up, right? 

Assume two hypothetical dudes, X and Y, to make this point clear.   Each had $100K (and only $100K) to spend on ten different SA keys over a two-year period, specifically 2019-2021.  For simplicity, assume a fixed $10K for each SA book during 2019, which doubled year-over-year during this period.    

X, much like Thor above, wanted nice-looking books, but he insisted on white interior pages, too.  X’s motto: “Patience is a virtue.”  

During 2019, X managed to find only two W-page books and spent $20K in total.  In 2020, with the spotty availability of keys during that wild year, X only managed to find one other book, which now cost him $20K.   And so far in 2021, X found only one more book, which cost him $40K.   The $20K in books spent in 2019 quadrupled to $80K in 2021.  The $20K spent during 2020 doubled to $40K in 2021, while the $40K spent recently in 2021 remained unchanged.  So X is now sitting on four books worth $160K, plus $20K in unspent cash.  A nice return on $100K, to be sure, and X pats himself on the back.  But how did Y make out? 

Y, an impatient wretch, did not hesitate to pull the trigger on nice-looking books of varying page quality.   Y’s motto:  Carpe diem.     

During 2019, while prices remained unchanged, Y managed to find all ten SA keys by spending the whole $100K that year.  As expected, the books varied in page quality, some C/OW, OW, and OW/W, and some W.   By 2021, all those books quadrupled in value compared to 2019, so Y is now sitting on ten SA key books worth $400K.  

To recap, X today has only 4 of the 10 books, with his PC valued at $160K.  The $20K left over is not enough to buy another book (now $40K).  By contrast, the less picky Y has all 10 books on his want list, valued at $400K, and his PC is done.  Y not only captured all of the appreciation the last two years, but has been enjoying ownership of all 10 keys for two years and counting.  And if Y ever decides to upgrade his books (or chase different keys), he’s in a much better position to do so.  

All this is easier to say in hindsight, of course, but SA keys have rarely remained flat or depreciated for long in past decades, mostly enjoying steady gains year over year, especially using a longitudinal perspective.  So it seems like a less-structured approach is a safer bet if history is any indication.    Going forward is a trickier question.  Who knows what the future holds. 

 

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Hello, everyone. This is my first time posting in this part of the forums, so I hope I'm not making any mistakes.

I come seeking advice. I'm finally committing to trying to acquire an ASM #1, as I'm worried if I don't act soon I'll be permanently priced out, and was wondering if you all had any tips.

I have a pretty modest budget--I MIGHT be able to touch $10k but I'd really rather not--so I know I'm looking at probably 1.5-1.8, tops. I'm just hoping for some information, like if there's a general consensus on when may be a good time to try to buy. For example, we all know the new movie is coming out in less than two weeks. I'm wondering if now would be buying at the absolute top of demand, or if books command higher prices after release? It's also the holiday season, so I don't know if that has any impact.

I'm really just coming back to collecting for the first time since the early 2010s, when these books were at prices I could generally afford--including the copy of ASM 1 that I sold in 2011, thinking surely a low grade copy will be able to be had for ~$2000 for at least another 5-10 years. Joke's on me, obviously. The point being it seems like collecting has grown much more complicated, and certainly when you're having to financially stretch to acquire something. 

Anyway, I feel like I'm beginning to ramble. I apologize. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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