JiveTurkeyMoFo Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would have liked to pick the mm9 but 42,000 seems like a lot to me for an 8.0? What does that make a 9.4 worth? 150-200k? I can't see anyone shelling out that kind money for a NM, so without looking at the census or the gpa I have to think that it might be the sort of situation where the MM9 is "currently" the highest graded and has room to fall once other copies get slabbed. So even though I like MM9 I think the MF54 is the better value in this case.... again without any research though. Thoughts? If the Crippen copy of Suspense #3 can command $50K, the Marvel Mystery #9 is a steal at $42K. I don't think you would ever lose money on this book and I'm sure there would be a lineup of buyers for a NM copy at $150K. I agree completely. I think the significance of this book goes beyond many of the great points stated here to a very basic one: the long-standing difference between Marvel/Timely and DC. Very early on, Marvel/Timely decided to pit two main hero characters against one another in a colossal battle of Titans. Who was the hero? Who was the villain? My how different a comic book can be when its not so easy to tell. While Batman was gleefully giving Superman reach-arounds for 50 years in customary ho-hum DC storylines, the Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on, perhaps back to this very issue. Okay, I know the DC guys are going to kill me for that comment, but it sure was fun to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would have liked to pick the mm9 but 42,000 seems like a lot to me for an 8.0? What does that make a 9.4 worth? 150-200k? I can't see anyone shelling out that kind money for a NM, so without looking at the census or the gpa I have to think that it might be the sort of situation where the MM9 is "currently" the highest graded and has room to fall once other copies get slabbed. So even though I like MM9 I think the MF54 is the better value in this case.... again without any research though. Thoughts? If the Crippen copy of Suspense #3 can command $50K, the Marvel Mystery #9 is a steal at $42K. I don't think you would ever lose money on this book and I'm sure there would be a lineup of buyers for a NM copy at $150K. I agree completely. I think the significance of this book goes beyond many of the great points stated here to a very basic one: the long-standing difference between Marvel/Timely and DC. Very early on, Marvel/Timely decided to pit two main hero characters against one another in a colossal battle of Titans. Who was the hero? Who was the villain? My how different a comic book can be when its not so easy to tell. While Batman was gleefully giving Superman reach-arounds for 50 years in customary ho-hum DC storylines, the Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on, perhaps back to this very issue. Okay, I know the DC guys are going to kill me for that comment, but it sure was fun to write. Screw the DC guys. Did Super Dog ever battle the Batt Hound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would have liked to pick the mm9 but 42,000 seems like a lot to me for an 8.0? What does that make a 9.4 worth? 150-200k? I can't see anyone shelling out that kind money for a NM, so without looking at the census or the gpa I have to think that it might be the sort of situation where the MM9 is "currently" the highest graded and has room to fall once other copies get slabbed. So even though I like MM9 I think the MF54 is the better value in this case.... again without any research though. Thoughts? If the Crippen copy of Suspense #3 can command $50K, the Marvel Mystery #9 is a steal at $42K. I don't think you would ever lose money on this book and I'm sure there would be a lineup of buyers for a NM copy at $150K. I agree completely. I think the significance of this book goes beyond many of the great points stated here to a very basic one: the long-standing difference between Marvel/Timely and DC. Very early on, Marvel/Timely decided to pit two main hero characters against one another in a colossal battle of Titans. Who was the hero? Who was the villain? My how different a comic book can be when its not so easy to tell. While Batman was gleefully giving Superman reach-arounds for 50 years in customary ho-hum DC storylines, the Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on, perhaps back to this very issue. Okay, I know the DC guys are going to kill me for that comment, but it sure was fun to write. I'm mostly a DC guy, but I still laughed my tail off at your post! I collect just about every publisher, but DC is what gets me all lathered up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 he Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on When I think of a robotic pyromaniac and an ankle-winged Atlantean the first word that comes to mind is "realistic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveTurkeyMoFo Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 he Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on When I think of a robotic pyromaniac and an ankle-winged Atlantean the first word that comes to mind is "realistic". Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrael Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would have liked to pick the mm9 but 42,000 seems like a lot to me for an 8.0? What does that make a 9.4 worth? 150-200k? I can't see anyone shelling out that kind money for a NM, so without looking at the census or the gpa I have to think that it might be the sort of situation where the MM9 is "currently" the highest graded and has room to fall once other copies get slabbed. So even though I like MM9 I think the MF54 is the better value in this case.... again without any research though. Thoughts? If the Crippen copy of Suspense #3 can command $50K, the Marvel Mystery #9 is a steal at $42K. I don't think you would ever lose money on this book and I'm sure there would be a lineup of buyers for a NM copy at $150K. I agree completely. I think the significance of this book goes beyond many of the great points stated here to a very basic one: the long-standing difference between Marvel/Timely and DC. Very early on, Marvel/Timely decided to pit two main hero characters against one another in a colossal battle of Titans. Who was the hero? Who was the villain? My how different a comic book can be when its not so easy to tell. While Batman was gleefully giving Superman reach-arounds for 50 years in customary ho-hum DC storylines, the Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on, perhaps back to this very issue. Okay, I know the DC guys are going to kill me for that comment, but it sure was fun to write. You convinced me. I would take the MM 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 he Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on When I think of a robotic pyromaniac and an ankle-winged Atlantean the first word that comes to mind is "realistic". man, you beat me too it...I was gonna say something along those lines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 he Marvel tradition of realistic heroes airing realistic differences in a realistic world started very early on When I think of a robotic pyromaniac and an ankle-winged Atlantean the first word that comes to mind is "realistic". Touche I'm pretty fond of both of those characters. But don't go dissin my DC homeys, OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yea, certainly a tough call... But i'm going with MM #9.. It's simply a classic cover and a classic battle between the torch and subby. Not to mention how rare it is to find this book!?!? Definitely a book I'd love to own if I were to collect Timely's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 both of these beauties sold for approx $42,000 about 2 years ago. Which one would you choose, and why? The Marvel Mystery is the highest graded copy .........................or the choice for me....the WHITE paged, NM-, LARSON copy of More Fun Great one Showcase!! I will go with the Marvel #9, it is very key, high grade and simply wonderful. The More Fun was once owned by a hoser, so it is tainted in my mind.... This is a tough choice and I don't think you can go wrong either way you choose. I saw the More Fun before it slabbified and it's a quite a book. The MM 9 is the Chicago copy, was, so far as I could tell, undergraded and has since been re-submitted and is the 9.0. I would probably go for the MM 9 for the Everett and Burgos story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Both of these books have many similarities: both "D" copies both Fine- both unrestored both sold for approx. $17,000 both sold in 2006 both classic covers niether is highest graded copy Which one would you choose, and why? ...................or I find myself double suprised here: suprise #1: That Tec 31 isn't worth twice as much as Tec 35 suprise #2: I would choose Tec 35 ( superior PQ and seemingly only at the beginning stages of its "hotness" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveTurkeyMoFo Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Both of these books have many similarities: both "D" copies both Fine- both unrestored both sold for approx. $17,000 both sold in 2006 both classic covers niether is highest graded copy Which one would you choose, and why? ...................or I find myself double suprised here: suprise #1: That Tec 31 isn't worth twice as much as Tec 35 suprise #2: I would choose Tec 35 ( superior PQ and seemingly only at the beginning stages of its "hotness" ) This one is no contest. Tec # 31. All day and all night. Easily one of the most memorable comic covers ever and a pretty important tone-setting story in the early Batman mythos. As for Tec # 35, I think its "hotness" and newfound desirability is largely lost on me. Besides, structurally, the # 31 looks to be more solid of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theagenes Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 31 is a no brainer. I can't believe they went for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkknight Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Both of these books have many similarities: both "D" copies both Fine- both unrestored both sold for approx. $17,000 both sold in 2006 both classic covers niether is highest graded copy Which one would you choose, and why? ...................or I find myself double suprised here: suprise #1: That Tec 31 isn't worth twice as much as Tec 35 suprise #2: I would choose Tec 35 ( superior PQ and seemingly only at the beginning stages of its "hotness" ) Detective Comics 31. I've already had a 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I think people try to push the hypodermic aspect of 35, but since we're not sheep we choose the 31. The only real factor in the choice is the PQ or whether you need to fill a hole. But there's no doubt in my mind that 31 is a superior if not iconic cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 I can't believe they went for the same price. this was my 1st thought also....so then, to make my choice, I looked at it this way: if Tec 35 just brought as much as Tec 31 this year, it's big "break out" year for whatever reason ( the market sometimes works in mysterious ways ), then couldn't the 35 easily surpass the 31 in the next few years ( even if it shouldn't ) if this trend should continue? They are both "classic covers", but 35 has some Soti like shock value that may be driving it to a new, highly desirable level not seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theagenes Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I can't believe they went for the same price. this was my 1st thought also....so then, to make my choice, I looked at it this way: if Tec 35 just brought as much as Tec 31 this year, it's big "break out" year for whatever reason ( the market sometimes works in mysterious ways ), then couldn't the 35 easily surpass the 31 in the next few years ( even if it shouldn't ) if this trend should continue? They are both "classic covers", but 35 has some Soti like shock value that may be driving it to a new, highly desirable level not seen before. More likely it's just a fad. If you want a quick flip maybe the 35 is the way to go to take advantage of the recent "hotness," but if you're looking for a longer term investment then the 31 is clearly the way to go. It always has been and always will be a classic, highly desirible comic - many would say the best GA superhero cover ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theagenes Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) More likely it's just a fad. If you want a quick flip maybe the 35 is the way to go to take advantage of the recent "hotness," but if you're looking for a longer term investment then the 31 is clearly the way to go. It always has been and always will be a classic, highly desirible comic - many would say the best GA superhero cover ever. Case in point: 2006 GA Superhero Cover Contest Results Edited December 24, 2006 by Theagenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 More likely it's just a fad. If you want a quick flip maybe the 35 is the way to go to take advantage of the recent "hotness," but if you're looking for a longer term investment then the 31 is clearly the way to go. It always has been and always will be a classic, highly desirible comic - many would say the best GA superhero cover ever. Case in point: 2006 GA Superhero Cover Contest Results yeah...I see your point. I've always been a pre-code, "used in Soti" classic cover buff...guess that trickled down into my choice......revised pick for me -- the 31! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Detective 31 for me as well! It is one of my all-time favorite books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...