For all you folks who paid THOUSANDS for HG Hulk 181... 2 2

[THE_BEYONDER]

Elvis has left the building....

[Jeffro.]

I hope Elvis bought one at those horribly inflated prices.

[Gotham Kid]

39 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

Elvis has left the building....

He was an impostor.

[alexgross.com]

On 6/26/2003 at 12:32 PM, Elvis said:

This is a real shame. What I cant believe is that people STILL pay so much for high grade CGC Hulk 181's. Please take a look at the census on this BEFORE you bid so much. There are SOOOO many of them in high grade. IT IS INSANITY TO PAY MORE THAN $1k for this book.

 

http://www.cgccomics.com/poplookup/grades_standard.asp?title=Incredible+Hulk+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&publisher=Marvel+Comics++++++++++++&issue=181++++&year=1974

perhaps @Randall Ries previous handle?

[alexgross.com]

On 7/1/2003 at 6:51 PM, delekkerste said:

"There is a $40.00 comic out there right now that will sell for $1000.00 in about 20 years. I don't know which one it will be. If I did (know for sure) I'd get in line for my 10 or 20 copies. And sure, you can say it'll never happen and it will sound very much like all those 80's collectors that said Bronze Age will never be worth anything.

 

You're in the same environment now as we were back then."

 

 

There are many $1000.00 books out there now that will sell for $40.00 in about 20 years. I don't know which ones they are. If I did (know for sure), I'd sell short 10 or 20 copies of each. And sure, you can say it'll never happen and it will sound very much like all those perma-bull speculator day-traders in 1999 and 2000 that said the Nasdaq would go to 10,000 and the Dow would go to 36,000.

 

You're in the same speculative, hope & greed-driven environment now as we were back then. http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/tongue.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/tongue.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/grin.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/grin.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/27_laughing.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/27_laughing.gif

 

Gene

this. at least the first half proved to be true, and in far less than 20 years. not so sure about the second part. 

[valiantman]

13 hours ago, Terry_JSA said:

On 6/27/2003 at 4:37 PM, ninanina said:

9.4 will be a $19,000.00 book in 19 years, 6 months. http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/grin.gif

I’m from the future, and I’m here to tell you that you’re absolutely correct. 

 

12 hours ago, ninanina said:

Hey Terry, thanks for bringing this thread back from 19 years and 6 months ago. Completely forgot about it. 

I got lucky on this one.

Not yet!  19 years and 6 months from 6/27/2003 will be December 27th, 2022.

We've still got 18 months for the market to crash like the original poster predicted. 

[Randall Ries]

2 hours ago, alexgross.com said:

perhaps @Randall Ries previous handle?

Say whatever you need to. I don't buy books just based on $$$ value. I buy the books because I love what I am buying. I don't like Wolvie so why will I buy the thing at any price? If I bought in 2003 for $1k, I wouldn't sell it for $20K  because that means that I wanted to keep it for the book itself. So, go ahead. Spend $20k. $50K. $100K. Not my money. If money is all you have going for you, you have my sympathy.

[jcjames]

5 hours ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

Elvis has left the building....

AAAaaaahaaahahaaa! 

So is midgrade 181 plateauing? I've seen a couple midgrades (5-6) go unsold on Feebay at what appeared to be FMV? 

 

[Albert Thurgood]

In fairness, I agree with the OP so I only spent 25c buying my two copies...

[TroyT7986]

On 6/1/2021 at 3:28 PM, jcjames said:

AAAaaaahaaahahaaa! 

So is midgrade 181 plateauing? I've seen a couple midgrades (5-6) go unsold on Feebay at what appeared to be FMV? 

 

An ungraded missing MVS just sold for $2,726. Probably a 4.5-5.0 grade. An 8.0 CGC graded is currently selling for $8000 with 4 days and 10 hours left.

Update: The 8.0 sold for $8,300

Edited June 7, 2021 by TroyT7986
Updated an eBay auction result

[profholt82]

Honestly, as far as the way the comic market worked prior to the last decade or so, the OP wasn't wrong. 20 years ago, population count mattered when it came to a book's value. If it wasn't a Golden or major key Silver, the comparatively massive populations of high grade key Bronze books kept their prices down. But somehow over the last 10 years, that stopped mattering, and now key Bronze books with high grade populations well into the thousands are now commanding crazy high prices. The comic market has had a massive shift in how it operates compared to 2003. So, for guys to be rolling around laughing at how silly the OP is, that was actually a fair assessment of the market back then. Things change. 

[HighVoltage]

2 hours ago, profholt82 said:

Honestly, as far as the way the comic market worked prior to the last decade or so, the OP wasn't wrong. 20 years ago, population count mattered when it came to a book's value. If it wasn't a Golden or major key Silver, the comparatively massive populations of high grade key Bronze books kept their prices down. But somehow over the last 10 years, that stopped mattering, and now key Bronze books with high grade populations well into the thousands are now commanding crazy high prices. The comic market has had a massive shift in how it operates compared to 2003. So, for guys to be rolling around laughing at how silly the OP is, that was actually a fair assessment of the market back then. Things change. 

Plus, slab-grading and on-line commerce were still somewhat in their infancy (I mean you could do it, but photos still weren't great and payment structures online were sometimes iffy).
Slabbing has helped make the books more liquid, which ties in with a refined e-commerce, making it a million times easier to buy and sell stuff.

[Gatsby77]

7 minutes ago, HighVoltage said:

Plus, slab-grading and on-line commerce were still somewhat in their infancy (I mean you could do it, but photos still weren't great and payment structures online were sometimes iffy).
Slabbing has helped make the books more liquid, which ties in with a refined e-commerce, making it a million times easier to buy and sell stuff.

And there's been a massive shift in the definition of "keys" now weighted almost exclusively to first appearances.

Artist books, key storyline runs, origin issues and battle issues have been (with few exceptions) largely forgotten.

Example: Daredevil 158 (1st Miller) vs. Daredevil 168 (1st Elektra).

2003: 158, CGC 9.6 in GPA: $360

2021: 158, CGC 9.6 in GPA: $363

vs.

2003: 168, CGC 9.6 in GPA: $616

2021: 168, 9.6 in GPA: $900

 

Flat (artist book) vs. + 46% (1st appearance book - and this includes that both books were really hot in 2003 due to the Daredevil movie, vs. no imminent movie hype today).

[Jeffro.]

@Elvis

 

Spoiler

 

[FlyingDonut]

On 7/1/2003 at 9:51 PM, delekkerste said:

"There is a $40.00 comic out there right now that will sell for $1000.00 in about 20 years. I don't know which one it will be. If I did (know for sure) I'd get in line for my 10 or 20 copies. And sure, you can say it'll never happen and it will sound very much like all those 80's collectors that said Bronze Age will never be worth anything.

 

You're in the same environment now as we were back then."

 

 

There are many $1000.00 books out there now that will sell for $40.00 in about 20 years. I don't know which ones they are. If I did (know for sure), I'd sell short 10 or 20 copies of each. And sure, you can say it'll never happen and it will sound very much like all those perma-bull speculator day-traders in 1999 and 2000 that said the Nasdaq would go to 10,000 and the Dow would go to 36,000.

 

You're in the same speculative, hope & greed-driven environment now as we were back then. http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/tongue.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/tongue.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/grin.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/grin.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/27_laughing.gifhttp://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/27_laughing.gif

 

Gene

Is this #newgene or #oldgene? @delekkerste