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Not sure about your Google search, but I puched it in and it had a link to this archived 15-page thread on these very CGC boards here entitled "Wizard's 100 Greatest Covers: https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/24551-wizards-100-greatest-covers/#comments

Hey Steve; It's great to finally see you posting on these boards once again as it's been a exceedingly long almost years since your last post here. You should definitely pay no attention to what some of the overbearing boobirds tend to say at times and just simply spend more time educating the rest of us here and also let us vicariously enjoy your wonderful collection through your posts here once again.

Hey Peter; Yes, those Flanagan covers are another thing of sheer and absolute beauty. Do you have any of the Adventure issues from the post Flessel Aventure covers up to #39, and if so, which ones are you missing from your collection?

spot on.....but the bigger the badder they are...the more they can get away with! Now, now now.................let's NOT turn this into another thread on the Over PROMISE and Under Deliver pedigree collection of books.

Not sure about an official merger or anything like that, but isn't there already some kind of "indirect" or small partial ownership linkage between Heritage and the umbrella CCG group (now taken over by Blackstone) where CGC falls under?

It does. I would need an unrestored copy of New Comics #2 in at least mid-grade, which doesn't exist. I would have to title the thread: "The New Comics run in grade (except for #2)." Hey Peter; What an absolutely amazing and complete run that you have here of probably one of the two toughest early DC pre-hero runs and ALL in one place for all of us to view and salivate over. I guess you still haven't come across a nice enough copy of New Comics 2 to fit into this collection of yours yet. Looks like the CGC census prior to this year had been sitting at only 5 Universal copies for several years running with the last one added being a CGC 0.5 Poor condition copy back in 2016. Then this PBA CGC 2.0 graded copy was added in February of this year with another CGC 2.0 graded copy added just this past month in March. Looks like we having a "feast" of New Comics 2 now, but still nothing above a CGC 2.0 condition grade yet, with a total of 3 copies tied for this highest grade for now. Best of luck to you in terms of finding a nice copy of New Comics 2 to complete your New Comics run, although I suspect there might be a bit of competition out there if one ever does surface.

Well, all I can say is that you guys must have either been dawdling for an awfully long time or rushing along at the pace of a crippled snail, as this book came back to market for 3 consecutive years running after its initial sale for $20,700 back in 2004. Like baseball I guess you are given only 3 strikes before you are out of the game. I still remember the discussion on the boards at the time as it couldn't hit the Reserve of $16K in 2005, or the reduced Reserve of $12K in 2006, and then even failed to hit the bargain basement Reserve of only $11,500 in 2007. Totally shocked me as I thought it was an absolutely gorgeous copy of an much underappreciated Fine classic underwater submarine cover scene and yet nobody was willing to pay even half of what it had gone for back in 2004. I thought the book had eventually managed to find a buyer in the end, but not sure if it did or not in the end. I will say though that if it is bring consigned by the original buyer and this is the 4th try for them to unload this "sprialling in value" book here, I will be more than happy to take the hit and meet their new reduced Reserve price for this Church copy of National 7 and let their long suffering pain finally come to an end.

Yes, especially if you compared it to this nicely presenting CGC 3.0 graded copy that CC was able to fetch back in March of 2017: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/684452

Yep, totally agree with everybody here that this is definitely a shocker of a price for this book here. Not a PCH collector myself, but considering that there's 40 graded copies out there already and this copy here is only tied for the highest graded copy with a total of 7 copies in CGC 8.0 and above, price of > $50K definitely seems to have a lot of exuberance built into it. I guess it's got the best of both worlds here in terms of the skeleton and the Devil hinself on the cover. Almost makes this supposedly harder to find skeleton cover more of a steal of a deal at an asking price of $25K OBO, especially considering that this copy here is the SINGLE highestgraded copy with only a totall of 11 copies in the census and only 3 copies in CGC 8.0 and above. Then again, since it's from back in 1942 it's not considered to be part of the more highly desired PCH genre, but just more a run of the mill book from the far less exciting and more mundane GA time period: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116130997786?hash=item1b09f2661a%3Ag%3Az-4AAOSw1LxmDf34&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338846873&customid=a22a8105-fe85-4cdf-b597-b1507c180dd9&toolid=10049&gck=a22a8105-fe85-4cdf-b597-b1507c180dd9

Are you saying that the Universal CGC 2.5 graded copy went too low or that the Restored CGC 1.5 graded copy sold for too high, especially considering that the restoration was flagged as C-5 for Extensive and Poor Quality?

You must mean this nicely presenting CGC 2.0 graded copy of this rather HTF beauty here: I actually thought Jon Berk's 7.0 graded copy was right up there when it first sold for $38,500 at CC back in the summer of 2017. Shows what little I know as it then was resold at CC as a CGC 7.5 graded copy for just over $54K in 2019 before being resold a third time for $69K a few years later in 2022. Any bets that the current owner of the second highest graded 7.5 Berk copy along with the owner of the single highest graded CGC 9.0 copy of this book must be simply ecstatic with the sale of this much lower 2.0 graded copy for a rather whopping $43,200. Unlike highest graded copies of more recent books where the appearance of other copies in similar or even higher grade can "kill" the value of your book, it's nice when copies in even lower grade condition not only reinforces the price which you had paid for the book, but in fact continues to push the book's valuation up even higher.

I would tend to agree although I would have to say that I am a bit biased since I've always liked the 'Tec 29 cover image plus the fact that it's an earlier issue with the 2nd Batman cover and also a bit tougher to find than the 'Tec 31. Then again, maybe it's the tendency for me to prefer the underdog over the fan favorite as I prefer the Phantom Lady 23 over the PL17, the Blue Beetle 52 over the BB 54, the Seven Seas 6 over the SS 4. etc. Higher than the $66K figure it fetched for sure, but not quite sure if I would say 6-figures yet for a CGC 3.5?

Yikes is right, but I imagine it's all about the so-called "classic cover" image in this issue here as I very much highly doubt you would see this kind of pricing result on virtually all of the other issues in this Speed run.

He didn't say that, did he? That would mean either: a) He's admitting they didn't grade them correctly and/or held off giving deserved 9.9's b) They've lowered their standards now. An except from a post in another thread here on the GA boards which I had just made since I am too lazy to rewrite my post from scratch:

Not sure why you would think this as it should clearly be evident by now that the whole concept of their business model as envisioned by the CCG ownership group is to to find different ways to convince their customers to send the exact same book back in for additional revenue streaming services time and time again. From strictly a business POV, this makes perfect sense as why would a business want to sell a product only once and be done with it if they can resell it multiple times to their customers who are happily lining up with their wallets wide open to pay for it. Think back to when pressing and other forms of what were then thought of as restoration were first outed on the boards here back in 2005.....................as long as you can show your customers that there's a potential magical pot of gold at the end of the CGC rainbow, they'll come running in droves. And just like what we saw during the Covid time periods, not only will they come running, but they'll even be willing to wait countless months for their books to come back from CCS and CGC as long as they think there's money in there for them to scoop up. So, why would it be any different this time since it looks like CGC has now given them another opportunity to make even a whole lot more money with this latest scam scheme here? Too lazy to dig through the now nearly 500 pages of posts in the ASM 252 thread to find that interview, but the part I didn't quite understand was Matt leaving the impression that there must be some 9.9's hidden there in amongst the 9.8's due to the sheer volumes. Kind of left me with the impression that 9.9's were not part of their standard normal grading process even though it has always been listed as one of the grades in their grading standard. Especially when he mentions that a 9.9 pre-screen will require much more time and more work on the part of the grader, and I assume hence a much more costlier service which the submittor will now be paying for. So, puzzled as I am not sure why we have to pay for a second much more costlier service for them to determine if your book actually qualifies for a 9.9 grade when I thought they were supposed to have been be doing this all along in the first place? Yes, although I got the impression that this service would really be trying to target the MA market with all of those countless 9.8's just waiting to be resbmitted back to them at even bigger dollars, you know that a 9.9 single highest graded copy of an older key and very visible book with a huge quantity of already graded 9.8's (eg. say a GSXM 1 with over 250 copies already in 9.8) would be the ideal book to promote and hype this new service that they are about to bring to the marketplace. Especially since it means more money for all parties involved who are willing to play along as the game gets ramped up to an even higher level.