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17 hours ago, AnkurJ said:
Good to see some of these pieces. Many appeared to belong to a dealer in Ohio.
Hi Ankur, I think around 30 of the pieces came from Mike's convention and online stock, but the rest of Mike's consignment are new to market, as are the majority of the 175 pieces which came mostly all from private collectors. I hope you find something of interest.
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Hi all, I’m so sorry the art price list has been delayed— the Society has been working hard preparing to post the photos, information and prices for each piece. They said they’d be up as soon as they can, I think some time mid next week. There are over 175 pieces of art in this sale! Perhaps 50 or so are known dealers stock I think-- that means 125 pieces have not previously been available! Once photos and prices are posted please feel free to contact me if there are any questions, at robpistella@mac.com or text me at 804-363-1365.
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I get asked periodically to provide scans. I will definitely ask for a comp copy. if the answer is no, I usually do not provide it, since I usually have to de-frame art and bring it to a professional scanning place.
However for books that are pricey, I've been offered to be able to buy the book wholesale and I did that, i.e. $125 retail book and I paid $60 and got a mention in the book.
Everyone who loans the Society of Illustrators art gets a comp copy of the catalog (if there is one). It's the least we can do!
Rob
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2 hours ago, romitaman said:THANKYOU Scott.....BUT do you REALLY think that is even remotely possible here?
With so many conspiracy theorists, and those who smear others with zero factual evidence but rather just for their own personal opinions and or personal grievances, it's pretty easy to see why so many collectors / dealers in our hobby refuse or rarely post here on these CGC boards..
Case in point.......Look at what was just posted about me above, with someone saying it was not a real sale with the WINK WINK post.......
When these things happen, you either have to debate these people publicly, and if you don't, a lot of collectors will read their negative posts and assume their accusations about you to be fact!
Why do you think I (and mitch) are pretty much the only dealers who have been in our great hobby (for over 2 decades) who post here on these boards?
everyone else I know of in the hobby who deal art actively (buying and selling and trading) pretty much all REFUSE to post on the CGC boards in any regular way for fear of being blasted without any proof by an unknown entity and it possibly hurting their business or reputation in our hobby......... because, as we all know.......entertaining falsehoods travel a lot faster than simple facts....especially over the internet.
I post a lot less than i used to, and if this CGC post about this cover sale hadn't been told to me from a friend over the phone, i wouldn't have posted here at all.
Mike I completely agree with you.
Last year I curated the Profiles in History Comic Art sale, and we sold the Frankenstein Wrightson cover for over $1.2 Mil.
Someone here said he didn't believe it and wanted the new owner to post a picture with the daily newspaper (for the date) and the piece!
(As if this multimillionaire could be bothered to read that, and PROVE he bought the piece to this troll)? It's laughable.
I gather there is no moderator here to keep things civil?
So, I too almost never post here because the few trolls seem to have complete freedom.
'Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are'. Proverbs.
Rob
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9 hours ago, vodou said:
The earliest tale I've heard is of San Mateo catalogs ordered in the late 70s or very early 80s out of OPG (or was it CBG?) and never received. Not just one guy, many. Booming business back then at a buck a clip , then they got "greedy" and ruined everything
Well I ordered their catalog in the late 70s. I still have it here. I've attached photos. It took around 80 days to get the catalog. I wrote to complain and they said they mail bulk rate and they had to wait until 100+ catalog requests came in and I had just missed the last one.
I said to myself if they take almost three months to send a catalog, I don't think I'm going to get any kind of customer service if I order something, so I didn't. -
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Hi all! I was there today.
Joe did a great job making sure that the show was in compliance with state mandates. Everyone followed the rules it seemed.
Eight dealers: Anthony Snyder, Albert Moy, Bechara Maalouf, Nathan Rose, Brad Savage, Hans, Will Gabri-El, and another dealer of collectibles and art and comics, who I didn't know.
It was great to be back among comic art fans. Big rush in the morning, full capacity, then it trickled down. I think a lot of NYC fans and others too, are still reluctant to attend these type of more social events. I hope that changes soon.
I thought asking prices were (too) high and sellers unwilling to budge. I came home without spending a penny, though I was certainly there with the intent of pick up something.
I like seeing stuff priced. I get tired of asking prices. Most stuff was not priced. Some pricing seemed to depend on whim, the day of the week, the way the wind blows, and any number of other unimportant factors. Today' 14K is yesterday's 9K is tomorrows ?? it's kind of fun. Ask ten times, get five different answers. When you get the price you like, take it, if not, pass.
I later spoke to a few collectors who went, and as Ankur said previously, there is generally a dealer fear of leaving money on the table, so prices are high. (Maybe they should fear collectors spending that convention money at auction instead!)
If you really MUST HAVE something fair enough. But otherwise prices were high enough to pass on and wait for another day, rather than sellers lowering prices a bit and closing a deal.
There's always new art tomorrow...
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I'm not feeling any love for this one... signature is off... the art isn't confident.
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2 hours ago, stinkininkin said:
Nice pics Rob. Might seem like a weird observation, but it looks like a decent mix of ages represented, and not a room full of old geezers. Newer, younger blood in the hobby is a good thing from a longevity standpoint, and that demographic looks well represented at this preview. Now are those actual buyers, or just looky-loos kicking the tires? That's the question.
Hi Scott! I really didn't try to take representative pictures as I was busy discussing the sale. FOR SURE there were a lot of younger collectors entering our hobby and interested in buying. I don't think they were tire kickers. There were many 20s-30s I just didn't photograph. It was refreshing to see that. Also they were very interested in the craft involved in making a comic age. Earlier that day a NYC art school (Fashion Institute) came in and they LOVED the art and the fact that the art was hand penciled and inked and lettered and not done via computer.
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thanks all! We had a great time at the Society of Illustrators where we hosted a preview of our December 12 sale at Profiles in History.
Best way to register for this sale is here:
https://profilesinhistory.com/auction-registration-landing-page/?auctionid=23891
Here are some photos from the preview, we had over 75 enthusiastic collectors preview the art...
Rob
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3 hours ago, BCarter27 said:@artcollector9Do you still have a pic of Icarus? Still my fav BWS.
Here is Icarus...
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A fellow Studio collector Mark Wilcox and I approached all the Studio members perhaps 15 years ago and suggested that we do a followup book called STUDIOS, giving each of the four ¼ of the book to do as they please (presumably dedicated to each of their 'solo' post Studio work), and at the same time reprint properly the original Studio book. Book distributor Bud Plant was very enthusiastic about the project, we talked about signed editions, etc. We didn't draw up contracts or anything but tried to gauge the artist's interest.
Jeff, Bernie and Mike said 'sure' send details, and Barry said 'no way' and that was that.Rob
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5 hours ago, NelsonAI said:
For those in the NYC area:
PIH has a special viewing of approximately 40 pieces. Unfortunately, the original Wrightson Frankenstein piece will not make the trip from the West Coast. However, a high quality giclee of it is expected to be there for viewing.
This is being arranged through fellow CGC boardie, Rob Pistella. Rob is also the curator / consultant for many of the comic art exhibits at the Society of Illustrators in NYC.
East Coast — Dec. 5 – Dec. 7
Society of Illustrators
128 E 63rd St. New York, NY
Contact: Rob Pistella
Thanks Nelson! I will be there all day those days and people can either come on in, or make an appointment to see the art! You can email me at robpistella at mac.com. I will have a very nice selection of this landmark collection that has been off the market in one collector's hands for many years.
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dud. not Frazetta.
An especially awful signature.
Rob
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Great report Gene as usual.
It's not that prices are normally high for good stuff.
It was the alarming and annoying mantra of dealers justifying ridiculous prices by saying, "I don't really want to sell that."
I was told that at least seven times. I laid into the dealer the seventh time. It went something like this:
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Hi Dealer X, I really like that piece. How much is it?
$10,000.
OK. Heritage usually sells those for around $4500-5500. Can you share with me any information as to why it is priced 2X that? Is there something special about it?
I don't want to sell it.
What? That's your sale pitch? It's hanging on your for sale wall here at comic con. What do you mean you don't want to sell it? Why not leave it home?
I wanted to see if I could get stupid money for it.
Well, I'd have to be stupid to pay stupid money, yes?
I never heard it put that way. If I don't sell it I will just bring int home and be happy that it didn't sell.
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I heard this throughout the show. I don't want to sell that, I'm happy to bring it home.
I went to spend money and with a few small exceptions, came home with most of it. I'll spend it privately or at auction I guess. At least the auction house won't whine to me that they don't want to sell what I'm bidding on.
I had a great time otherwise, but in speaking with some deep pocketed collectors, they too had the same complaints. It wasn't that we weren't willing to spend large sums on the right pieces;
It was that increasingly we were unwilling to pay multiples of fair market value for appealing art for no other reason than the sellers desire to score sales at multiples of fair market value.
Rob
..the flip side of SDCC 2019 is that I feel that dealer pricing this year was the most disconnected from reality that I've ever witnessed (and I was not alone in this characterization - I heard it from two auction house reps and a number of collectors as well). I mean, it's not just that prices are at/near record highs, but, the pricing spread to FMV was just beyond the pale this year. I mean, sure, collectors always complain about dealer pricing, but, normally at least prices are at a level where you can start a conversation or negotiation. This year, many prices were just so far in la-la land, having jumped by hyperinflationary levels since just last year, that few would even want to bother. I'm not going to name names, and will point out that it's not all dealers (but, enough of them to make this characterization); the ones who post here on the Boards are not the ones I'm describing.
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Thanks guys! Here's a mention with images in the New York Times (today)
It's worth seeing!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/26/arts/batman-comics.html
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Here's a possible reason for a Lucas purchase of EQ:
The Egyptian Queen's outfit was the inspiration for Star War's Princess Leia's costume.
I could see THAT as a plausible reason for George to buy it for his museum.
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the show didn't seem well attended... any info?
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I'd cancel the PayPal asap. Then if you still want the art, negotiate from a position of strength (you still have your money) and not weakness (you are out your money and no art in hand).
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Comic Art Sale and Exhibit - Society of Illustrators
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Yes, the person who transcribed the notes made some mistakes in order to get the info up asap. Sorry about that. Indeed this is an unpublished version. They are in the process of correcting them now. Any inquiries in the meantime are given the correct info when there was a mistake. This will be sorted out asap.