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bryan91

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    Is this a Adventures of Superman #498 5th printing? I didn't see any mention of it in this thread.

     

    It was in an eBay listing that ended close to $100 for a sealed pack:

     

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-Sealed-1993-DC-Collectors-16-Pack-Death-of-Superman-Doomsday-Funeral-Steel-/261885723852?nma=true&si=QK1odFtOSk3s1VJ5HnPzodZw2oI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

     

     

    4th print. Being the funeral AND the doomsday run in the same pack with later prints, buyer has a good shot at a Mos 18 4th/5th.

     

    It was a MOS #18 5th print

     

    Congratulations! (thumbs u

     

     

    Thanks... I was really excited when I found a MOS #20 2nd print.

     

    Congrats!

     

    Did the pack contain an AC #686 2nd and AOS #499 3rd? If so and you don't need or want them I would be happy to trade or buy them from you.

  2. The Death of Superman was ridiculous. It was precisely the type of story aimed at 8 year old boys, with 8 year old reasoning. Nothing was explained, there was no buildup, there was no backstory, this guy just decided to show up and wallop Superman, and 7 issues later, Supes is dead?

     

    Stupid.

     

    If I was 8, I would have thought it was the greatest thing ever, just like I thought the Poseidon Adventure was the greatest movie ever when I was 8.

     

    The only clever part was the decreasing number of panels per book. That was kinda cool.

     

     

    :slapfight:

  3. Right. It just seems like every other book considers the cameo (Hulk #180, ASM #299, etc.) to not be the official first appearance. Just seems like as a collector, I'd rather have the official first full appearance of a character as well.

     

    It's quite amusing actually, because Supes #73 has the same three-panel Doomsday fist pounding wall segment . . . and yet?

     

    There are numerous instances of ewhere the OSPG got it wrong, or lagged in editing new information or the market's preference. As most of the modern collectors out there have been saying, don't let a friend (drive while drinking) price based on OSPG. lol

     

    Actually they are 4 panel pages starting with the first set in MOS 17 showing a progression of Doomsday breaking free and his rubber suit tearing revealing his bony protrusions until he breaks free in Action comics 683.

     

    So MOS 17, Superman 73, Adventures 496, and Action 683 all in that order have the 4 panel fist shot but MOS 17 was the first.

     

  4. Odd question, but why is #17 worth more than #18? Most books have the full first appearance going for much more than the cameo.

     

    i'm sure someone has the official numbers, but i think 18 has a much higher print run, they pretty much knew it'd be a big deal, therefore printed more. At least this is how I remember it. If i'm wrong, someone else feel free to step in.

     

     

    This is an excellent question, I always heard the print numbers were much lower for the teaser cameos than the books from the full storyline. I would like to see the numbers as well. I have only seen 1 copy of #17 in the wild in twenty years.

     

    Cap City numbers:

     

    MOS #17 - 18,700

    #18 - 26,350 (I was off on this one. It does help to explain the prices.)

    #19 - 96,700

    #20 - 84,250

    #21 - 138,050

    #22 (regular) - 109,350

    #22 (die-cut) - 400,450

     

    Stunning, stunning numbers. DC's marketing plan was absolute brilliance.

     

    The Death of Supes absolutely dominated the comics market from November of 1992 until the spring of 1993.

     

    Supes' numbers were low for most of 1992, MOS in the 20s and high 10s, and then shot up to the 100s and then slowly fell over the course of the next 3 years. MOS wouldn't fall back to the 20s again until late 1995.

     

    Keep in mind, these are Capital City order numbers, and do not include the other Direct Market distributors (Diamond, Heroes World, etc) or the newsstand.

     

    Cap City was about 25% of the market. Puts the numbers for #22 into perspective.

     

    Turok #1 sold 1.75 million copies to the Direct market...and it was only the SIXTH highest selling book of 1993 (MOS #22, Supes #78, Action #687, Adventures #500, 501.)

     

    Thank you for these numbers. I always enjoy seeing figures like this.