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I’d start with this one. The other was given to another boardie. Both written by Michael Hill. I’d also read Dr. Michael Vassolo’s blog regarding Timely/Atlas/Marvel. I’d consider Doc to be the preeminent expert and still some unbiased.

Our opinions on the matter are so different on the matter, it really seems pointless to argue about it with you. I’ll let Chuck carry the flag from here on out.

There are at least two very good books regarding Kirby’s side of the story that you should consider reading. You seem to believe only what the corporate employee had to say on the matter.

You didn’t answer my question. As far as weaving stories, he occasionally forgot characters actual first names. Characters he claimed he created. This whole argument really starts and ends with Lee claiming sole ownership and creatorship or the characters in his fireside origin books.

I don’t know who wrote the article and it doesn’t really matter as far as I’m concerned. Let me ask you this… did Stan deserve to be paid the full writers pay or should it have been shared with his plotters/artists?

Problem is that some of your assumptions are based on Lee’s claims of creatorship as well as plotting and writing. In Lee’s words from the beginning, Kirby and Ditko were the artists that drew Lee’s stories and that was utter nonsense.

Couldn’t really disagree with you more, especially in regards to your opinions on the 4th world. If Stan was such a gifted writer, then why hadn’t he succeeded previously while Simon and Kirby created the romance and war genre? If you were 8-12 years old, I’m sure you loved Stan’s “writing”. Kirby’s writing was for a slightly older audience. At best, Lee added a dialogue that worked for characters created by others. To each his own. The dialogue changed drastically over the first two years. The X-men in particular had rather childish dialogue. I’m biased because I came upon the silver age a little later in life. I’m 58 and by the time I started accumulating them, it was all about the art and not the stories. It still is.

thread is now closed. Will be sending out invoices over the next two days. might take me a few days to get things packaged up as we go. I'm out of town all weekend but will do my best to get things turned around as they pay out. Thanks everyone!

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Last book of the night. This might be the end of the thread. I’ve put these books out a bit faster than expected but will keep it open until Wednesday. Amazing Spider-Man 123 CGC 9.4 ow/w $300

Nick Fury 9 VF $10- sold David king

Nick Fury 16 Fine $5- sold davidking

Hulk 130 fine light vertical crease $10- sold David king

Hulk 132 fine $10

Amazing Adventures 1 fine $30

Amazing adventures 2 fine+ $35

Nick Fury 5 fine w/sub crease. $10

Avengers annual 2 VG+/fine $20- sold waver99

Nick Fury 14 fine+ trumpet art $5 -sold David king

Nick Fury 12 VG early Barry Smith art $5

Nick Fury 6 Looks VF/NM but centerfold was never attached although is present. Manufacturing error. $35

X-men 57 VG+/fine $25- sold waver99