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Mr Wiggles
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Wordpress is great if you have 10 different items to sell and don't care about security. This is a good read if you are trying to decide between the two.
MCS seems to be an option for hot books/keys. Everything else is filled with inventory of their own and consignment.
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Too expensive? Seems to be the cheap method of doing a domain yourself without vast knowledge of shopping carts, security, etc...
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So it looks like Vertigo is becoming a goldmine for DC.
Hellblazer, Preacher, I Zombie and now Sandman.
I wonder what other Vertigo characters will be an option?
Y the Last Man
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Fantastic news!
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They look like placeholders for private deals using eBay/PayPal as a secure payment transfer.
Possible...very possible....I guess my mind isn't deviant enough. I would never thought of an idea like this.
But with $900 prices vs $50, doesn't that meen more fees to eBay??
It is more fees but the cost is the cost if you want a secure money transfer. I used to see these on a daily basis when eBay fees were much smaller but it doesn't shock me they still exist.
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They look like placeholders for private deals using eBay/PayPal as a secure payment transfer.
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Thanks for the joke PM. Friday isn't complete without laughs from the boards.
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Why waste time on putting a thread together? I'll buy them now. Just send the PM.
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Arn't they doing a new Godzilla movie in a year or two? I have a stack of marvel Godzilla #1's I can unload to you on the cheap if you want to play that game.
Send me a PM on what you consider "cheap".
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As well, FIVE GHOSTS art will be available soon. I will make an announcement here when that happens. Thanks!
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How cool! I'd love to own a copy of this as well.
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I think the initial mock-up works great. I also agree with CAHokie, the list will have very few people over time. The PIF thread has been operating over a year and this is the first individual that even crossed the line for nomination. The Secret Santa and Charity threads seem to have a similar history for baddies being a rarity.
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Really? What part of this did you not understand?
My apologies. I misread over the "existing" in that sentence as the previous few replies (and paragraph) were not in the same vein.
This I can get behind
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And I AM actually talking about combining and CENTRALIZING the PIF, Secret Santa, Grading Contests that have prizes, etc. into a centralized area under its own thread (something like PIF, CONTRIBUTIONS AND CONTESTS). What is the problem with that? You say you want centralization and this would be real centralization. And we would not have to revisit it when a new infraction comes up in other venues besides PIF.
Let's not misappropriate my use of the word "centralize". I said I wanted centralization of the baddies in a uniform PL. You are still advocating against that.
I'm also not looking to reorganize the forums, as you are with the idea of grouping contests, PIF, and SS together in their own section.
I'm not interested in a debate about poll length or reorganization of the forums. The discussion at hand is the addition of PIF baddies to the PL. A simple addition to the PL of a board member who has failed to carry out their end of a transaction conducted on the boards. This is not a "rush to justice" but the exact same approach that is used in any other PL nominee.
I don't know how much more "orderly" I can be presenting the discussion as it is.
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Well the arguments is not that we had to go through hoops so they should. The argument is that the hoops that we went through were necessary to come up with a valid sales forum rule set. The venue is not the same as PIF.
I would argue the act of conducting a transaction online is would constitute the same venue. Money exchanging hands makes a transaction differ but it doesn't remove the venue.
As far as polls go, what is it with the 48 hour polls? Where did the idea a poll like this should be 48 hours?
This doesn't change that both polls show support for PIF baddies on the PL list.
Again, I don't mind seeing a new sub-section in the HOS/PL list. But I feel that not only PIF but any contribution type venue like Secret Santa should be part of it. I'm the only person to actually suggest that and push for it. But it makes perfect sense, as the PIF is simply a version of the Secret Santa.
Why change what is already working? I don't think boardies are looking for a re-organization of the threads that are already working, whether they partake in them or not. Just that all baddies are listed in a central location.
It would be great to see a new sub-section in Forum Sales called something like CONTRIBUTIONS and CONTESTS where all these types of events can be rolled into one umbrella. Guidelines can be really formalized and discussions on violators can be made there. Otherwise there is going to be an ongoing "But the Forum Sales Guidelines" say this or "the HOS/PL rules say that". Which is exactly what happened with Secret Santa.
If you'd like users to refer to threads for their individual rules, or make a distinction that someone on the PL violated PIF/SS rules rather than sale forums rules, a simple distinction provides that. This retains a central location for all forum baddies but provides the distinction that you want to see made.
There is more to this than just sticking someone on the PL/HOS list.
Only if you choose to make it more. The bare bones are still the same. Anyone nominated to the PL list violated agreed upon terms to conduct a transaction. I'm leaving out terms like "on the boards" and "online" as the PL already provides for distinction outside of the forums (eBay and in person).
Distinctions are already made. The PL, I'm assuming, was created to protect boardies from potential grief in dealing with someone who doesn't hold up their end of the agreement. Expanding to allow PIF goes hand in hand with that desire to protect.
Shoot - almost identical iterations of this discussion are going on at the same time in both General Discussion and Probation Discussion. That in itself is a small indicator of what this place will look like if Contributions/Contests are not really formalized.
A great reason to have a centralized PL.
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You were not around in 2011 when we spent weeks working out the PL/HOS list. Weeks. Not just a poll and suddenly that is law. It don't work that way.
As I suggested to Beige in a PM and in General Discussion (or to anyone else that wants to spearhead PIF type probation list), work it out amoung the interested members. Go into the current PIF rules, solicit suggestions, look for loopholes and expansion/clarification where needed. After working everything though, have votes on member approval. We had a few rounds of posting the PL/HOS rule set and each round brought up new things to consider.
As I mentioned in my previous post, this may be a good time to incorporate other contribution based events like Secret Santa into the mix as, with the PIF, they are not sales
Then go through the mods and ask if they can create an area for this the way we did for the forum sales.
So the argument for not adding PIF baddies to the PL list is that you had to go through hoops to create something new so PIF should do the same?
Why dilute the good information the PL list provides by spreading the baddies across multiple threads?
Why not have the hard work you, and others, put in expand to help protect even more?
I don't understand this territorial mindset of not allowing all those who pose a potential risk to boardies, based on previous behavior, be easily found in a central location (the PL list). If the idea is to protect boardies, this is how you protect them in a greater capacity than to dilute the information across multiple threads.
Both polls indicate this is what the boardies want to see (75% yes on skypinkblu's poll). A central location for those who pose a potential risk.
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Well, you appear to be trying to make a point with a hypothetical that has no basis in fact. That never happened, so I am not sure what it proves.
I've seen posts alluding to the Secret Santa addition and yours claiming it didn't happen. If not I'll gladly debate the extent the term "transaction" defines.
Or we can just let the poll go, which seems to be where you're heading and I'm also fine with.
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It's not about the junk. It's about whether there is a transaction that occurred. Very very murky.
So if someone was previously added under with a failure to send via the Secret Santa thread does that qualify PIF to now be a transaction? They both follow the same formula of sending goods to someone who isn't sending back to you.
Doesn't seem murky at all.
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We should have a real poll - Regular PL list, Regular PL list with a notation that it was PIF, and PIF having its own bad agent list.
We should have a poll about the poll options. That is certainly relevant.
What other options are there?
The argument seems to be yes or no. Why muddle it with more nonsense? I'm still not certain why this is an argument to begin with if every PL addition isn't debated on whether their exchange involved "junk" or not.
Value judgments are a bad path to go down when it involves trying to protect board members from potential, future deals gone bad.
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We should have a real poll - Regular PL list, Regular PL list with a notation that it was PIF, and PIF having its own bad agent list.
We should have a poll about the poll options. That is certainly relevant.
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Wouldn't it be simpler to add them the regular PL, instead of creating a new one, and adding a comment that it was a PIF violation? It is done that way for off the board deals involving board members.
I like this,it's simple and makes the process more organized.
I think there was someone from a Christmas rafflle who refused to mail to England, EVEN when the winner offered to pay postage. I think the winner was AnfieldFox, don't remember the person who would not mail the item.
For simplicity, one PL for any obvious board malcontents seems right to me?
Seems like a simple solution to me.
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that I read in the parking lot b/c I can't wait until I get home.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who simply can not wait.
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Not sure when this is going to be announced at the Expo, but what the hell!
ONGOING
Congrats! You've got a long-haul reader in me and a few of my friends (I didn't have to twist any arms).
Possible...very possible....
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Is there a Constantinople variant?