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I'd say that if you don't feel comfortable grading a raw book a 9.8, if you can see a defect it's not a 9.8.

 

This is what I originally thought. However, with the handful of cgc book I have seen and those that I now own. I have noticed slight defects (usualy more then one) in just about all 9.8 books. If you consider that I am new to the hobby, you would think that I would be less likely to notice these things. So either I discovered a hidden talent or I don't understand how high grading works (my guess is for the later)

 

Maybe you should apply for a job with CGC as a grader!

There not too far from me. Maybe its all the cgc waste they pour into my drinking water...

I was looking through some older post and saw that it was mentioned that 9.8 does not mean no defects, but small defects. I am curious as to how many small defects is one small defect too many?

 

Also, if anyone can post pictures of books that you think are right on the boarder of being 9.8 or not, please do. Since that would help train my eye for what to look for.

 

Thanks.

 

This is something I've posted before on the subject.

 

 

 

CGC has not printed their grading criteria anywhere but this is the closest thing I have seen to it. I've posted this chart many times. It comes from the Overstreet Grading Guide. I find it invaluable in learning how to grade comics.

 

Where'd you get that info from Roy? I've never heard that before. And really, that TKJ has 99% of the spine on the front cover at the bottom, I wouldn't have thought that would be allowed in 9.8 if they took miswrap into consideration.

 

Part of it is from me reverse engineering CGC's grading standards through 1000's of submissions, some of it from conversations with CGC employees and some of it from reading the Overstreet grading guide (2nd edition).

 

In the grading guide there is a chart and a graph that shows how many defects and what size of defects are allowed in grade.

 

If you look at the graph, it shows that you are allowed 1 "larger" or 2 "smaller" defects in NM/M grade of 1/16" - 1/8" in size. I took that to mean that you can have two 1/16" or one 1/8" defect on an otherwise perfect book and the book will grade a 9.8.

 

That would include a miswrap of up to roughly 1/8"

 

A miswrap larger than 1/8" to 1/4" would drop it to the 9.6 range.

 

If you look at 9.9, you'll note that only one defect of 1/16" in size is allowed on an otherwise perfect book...so a perfect book with a 1/16" miswrap would drop the book into a 9.9 grade.

 

A perfect book with no miswrap would not drop the grade.

 

 

Thank you Vintage, I remember reading this in one of your post. It was very helpful, but from what I have seen (in my limited experience) there are high graded books (NM/M) that have more than the 1 large and or 2 small defects.

I'd say that if you don't feel comfortable grading a raw book a 9.8, if you can see a defect it's not a 9.8.

 

This is what I originally thought. However, with the handful of cgc book I have seen and those that I now own. I have noticed slight defects (usually more then one) in just about all 9.8 books. If you consider that I am new to the hobby and as such you would think that I would be less likely to notice these things. So either I discovered a hidden talent or I don't understand how high grading works (my guess is for the later)

I was looking through some older post and saw that it was mentioned that 9.8 does not mean no defects, but small defects. I am curious as to how many small defects is one small defect too many?

Also, if anyone can post pictures of books that you think are right on the boarder of being 9.8 or not, please do. Since that would help train my eye for what to look for.

Thanks.