mwd67

 

You now have one of the best looking pages from that book, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more Jae post-inked pages showing up.

 

 

 

andy robbins

 

You may very well be right Andy. Someone left this comment on my piece on CAFs:

"GREAT idea! Now I want my Batman/Superman page inked too!"

Millennials art not your fathers OA collectors.

As for the comment about what was originally there (Jae's pencils) being gone forever wouldn't that be the case for all pencils beneath ink? Jae's pencils are still still under the ink. Why are his pencils forever gone but not Kirby's, Buscema's, BWS, etc? I'm sure a lot of their work was erased away by their inker.

Jae's pencils under Jae's ink.

In my opinion no matter how great the job, it is altered original art. It ruins the value in my opinion even if it looks great. It is not akin to restoration or cleaning which is generally preserving the art. It is literally an unoriginal alteration. The value to me is now a little more than an equivalent commission piece would be. More because the piece was published but less than the unaltered original.

 

As was previously stated, if you like it and never intend to sell it then bravo. If you do sell at some point, you will be stuck explaining and expect a significant monetary loss.

 

I wonder if the younger generation of buyers feel that way about what I did. There are artist who are not using paper at all to create their art. They are selling one of a kind prints of their pages with signature. Millennials are buying them. What I have is far more than that. I now have the only truly inked Batman/Superman page there is and can sell it as such. Do you really think I won't find a buyer in the future? The medium is changing dramatically. If I ever decide to sell I don't think I'll have any problems. There is no one way of making comics any more. The purists are being replaced with a generation far more flexible.

For the OP, I'm curious, what exactly did you ask Jae Lee to do?? The inked prelim (that's what I'll call it) looks very, very close to the published piece. Was that what you asked Jae Lee to do? I imagine he just lightboxed the published piece.

 

After 3 years, I'm surprised that Jae Lee would even want to revisit a piece and essentially "copy" the published piece. If he was of the mind of "re-imagining" the page and ink over the pencils without the intention of copying, that might have been more interesting.

 

I'm also wondering how people would compare this to Gerhard working on comiconxion's pieces. Noone seems to be upset if Gerhard works on other artist's convention sketches. So if Gerhard (instead of Jae Lee) went over Jae Lee's pencils, would the reaction be different ? Are prelims more sacred than convention sketches ? A lot of artists didn't even save their prelims, at least not the bulk of their prelims.

 

 

 

 

 

I simply asked if he would ink it. His reply was "Yup! I'll ink it up right away. Inking that piece will be fun." I gave him no direction and he was enthusiastic about it.

I don't think it is sacrilegious. I think it's a crime against original art collecting!

 

I'm not saying this because I am one of the 2 friends you consulted who thought it is a bad idea. Nor am I saying this because we have a friendly bet as to how many haters you will have. But I think it is a crime and you will go to original art hell!

 

May your grail be purchased by the Donnelly's so that it is forever out of your reach

 

now I need other haters to speak their mind. At least six! Please speak up now

 

 

Malvin

We need to do everything we can to make sure "Backstabbin Malvin" looses this bet. No more haters! Only positive feedback. And also I hear Malvin hates Kirby and says Frazetta is overrated!

But as a pencil it wasn't a printed page anyway.

Three years ago I purchased a page from the Jae Lee run of Batman/Superman. Jae would do the pencils on board and then ink digitally so if you wanted an original art piece you were buying a pencil only. A couple of weeks ago I sent my page to Jae to have him ink it. You can see the beautiful results here: Inked page

When I told a couple of friends who are also OA collectors that I sent my page to Jae for this purpose they thought it was a bad idea. They felt that the piece should not be manipulated from what it was originally intended to be. They felt I should have him do the inking on a separate paper. I didn't like that idea for two reasons. First it would have cost me twice as much. Secondly it would have created a piece that had nothing to do with the initial creation of the comic.

My feeling is that the page was never meant to be published as a pencil so like a prelim it doesn't reflect the artists final vision. I got the original artist to do the inking and now the piece closely resembles what it was intended to be.

So my question is do you feel this piece is no longer a proper representation of the book? I would really like to hear opinions on this.

"Those of us of a certain age..." Wow do I fell old. I can only imagine how my father must feel. He's the one who got me into Boris.

This is another grail for me. My father is a huge Vallejo fan. As far back as the 1980's there were Vallejo calendars, prints, and art books in our home. I have very vivid memories of this particular piece. It was the cover of Boris and Doris Vallejo's 1984 book entitled "Enchantment". Stories by Doris with illustrations by Boris.

Boris Vallejo painting

I'm jazzed to have this in my collection. I've let Perez Titans pages go by in the past because they weren't quite right but this one grabbed me. The large image of Starfire is fantastic.

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1345686