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Stan Singh

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    ComicLink Summer Featured Auction has started

    in Original Comic Art

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    On 8/17/2019 at 8:29 AM, jjonahjameson11 said:

    With all of the talk about Heritage Auctions recently, I think the start of the Clink Featured auction kind of slipped by everyone's notice.  It started Thursday, and as usual, has a few pieces of interest for me.

    Here's the linky: https://comiclink.com/Auctions/allsub.asp?Focused=1&id=1398

    Good luck, and happy collecting (thumbsu

    Bumping this up since CL auction is ending just after the long weekend... and folks will probably forget. 

    Any of you collect Banksy?

    in Original Comic Art

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    39 minutes ago, ESeffinga said:

    By and large the biggest aftermarket of work for Banksy has been via property theft, property owners capitalizing on his bombing their wall, and what little publicly produced work he has put up for sale, generally as part of an exhibition that was made as a socio-political statement.

    In the very early days there were a series of officially released prints released via the artist’s back channels he had set up in London in order to arrange things. The prints were done as a seed money it seems, to get things rolling. There are in fact folks who know who and where he is. He has a small trusted network of other well known street artists in London and around the world.

    Most collectors that enjoy Banksy and truly understand that what he is doing with his work, get that it isn’t about being a commodity. Or for sale. Or for ownership. The vast majority of it is intended as a sort of Guerilla-style socioeconomic counter propaganda against the institutions of the world, and pro-humanity. This is all verry generalistic, and without getting into specifics and dragging the board into the various political discussions that would be bound to ensue, if discussed in any greater depth.

    The overall gist is, people who look to “collect” Banksy are not so much a fan of Banksy, but rather participating in the very institutions for which he seems to try and play the foil against. And for which he has pranked time and again.

    Thus furthering interest by those type of collectors.

    At this point he has created one of the most interesting dichotomies in art. The more he eschews the wealth and adulation of the uber wealthy that want to have one of his works, and the harder he makes it, and mocks them, the more driven they are to aquire it. The more they want that status symbol on their wall.

    He is on one level, like the next phase of Basquiat, in that he didn’t take street art into the gallery. He’s pushed against it. To try and keep it in the street. To keep it seen and lived with. To keep it out of Penthouse apartments, and away from art-brokers who would steer and capitalize on someone else’s “creativity”.

    If there is a “show” it is a pop up event. Often with little or no notice. There is a gotcha type game he plays with the public.

    For instance, the various times he has set up with art stalls, using stands ins to sell original unsigned works for paltry sums ($20-$50). New York. Paris. Venice. People walk by completely disinterested, or even chase the would be salesman away.

    The 3 folks that actually bought a piece during that series of stunts ended up with pieces appraised as being “worth” many many thousands of dollars. The “work” wasn’t worth that, but when his name was attached...

    The more he subverts and mocks our desire to own things, and the idea of value and worth, the more it draws attention to our own hypocrisy. And that is the real work. 

    You can’t own and collect that.

     

     

    T'is all truth my friend. And yet he does some studio works that he certifies and sells. I would like to one day find one. 

    Your Predictions Please

    in Original Comic Art

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    4 hours ago, visarspike said:

    i wonder : with the recent crazyness in asia (mainly china) about superheroes, and the huge part it takes now in super heroes movies profits, maybe it has created a whole new market (or will in the near future) for OA (and comics and comic related stuff)

     

    i'm very surprised marvel already hasn't planned a super hero movie with an asian hero to capitalize on asian market

    Great point about creating new markets. Marvel is building for its Asia market already.  Shang Chi movie in the works. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inverse.com/amp/article/56277-marvel-studios-shang-chi-release-date-cast-director-plot-more-details

    Final Survey Results: Comic art future

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Peter G said:

    Thank you for doing the survey. I found the final  data was very informative and captured this moment in time. 

     

    I give you lots of credit for running the survey on survey monkey, compiling the data, giving the board final results and still 🙂 when the board does its typical a@@-hole thing of spitting in ur eye for your efforts. God I hate so many of the people that post here. 

     

     

    Thanks for the kind words Peter! I won't let it bother me.  :)

    Final Survey Results: Comic art future

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    39 minutes ago, mister_not_so_nice said:

    Have you considered, possibly, just responding to one of the multiple other threads about this same exact subject instead of starting a new thread each time a thought occurs? (shrug)

    Yep. I have contributed to the threads. I put the survey out to hopefully contribute some data to the conversation. :)

    Comic Art's Future: A Survey

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, delekkerste said:

    Even if you accept that the popularity of superheroes and comics in pop culture has never been higher (true), will continue indefinitely (debatable) and will continue to bring in new fans with $$$ who will long to own this material as much or more as previous generations (absolutely not, but, for argument's sake, I'll allow it), your argument does not hold up under scrutiny because:

    1.  As you said, supply only goes up over time (as have prices to date)

    2.  The aggregate value of the art out there is now simply too large for future generations to clear the market at current prices given the 10-100-1000x appreciation over the past 30 years

    So, even allowing for comics culture going strong for decades to come, and for younger Millennials, Gen Z and future generations to have as much or more interest in buying this material as Gen X and the Baby Boomers when they start making more money, it's still not going to happen because they'd literally have to be multiple times better off to clear the market (this isn't an "ageist" statement - I've said that even most of the Baby Boomer and Gen X collectors themselves couldn't afford to re-buy their collections at prevailing market prices). And, in any case, we all know that the younger generations are not only going to be less well-off in the aggregate, but, they're also, on balance, not going to be as interested in the material in the same numbers. 

    I mean, think about what you are arguing if you disagree with these statements:  that people who are growing up today, with a nearly infinite amount of media and entertainment options available at low or even no cost (on the Internet), and who aren't, by and large, even discovering or interacting with comic book characters through actual comic books and comic art, are going to be MORE interested and shell out MORE money on them than the Gen Xers and Baby Boomers (because that's the only way the market is going to keep going up, by definition), who grew up with the amount of entertainment options you could count on two hands (comics being one of them)!  There's also nothing ageist about pointing out the very real economic headwinds that Millennials and the generations that follow are facing/are going to face relative to the previous two generations that they're following. 

    I think we have to be cautious of putting a whole generation into one spending bucket. Sure millennials overall seem to have less wealth now but some factors to consider are that these same millenials will inherit great wealth from their parents and that's a huge reason they are ok earning less now. Additionally this millennial generation while they are overall less wealthy than some gens, also are comprised of more high earners, millionaires and 1%ers than any other. And they love to spend it on experiences and nostalgia more so than on homes and cars. So if Avengers end game = star wars for them, which seems very plausible, I can see them spending money on collectibles that connect them to that experience.