Squad008

6.5 as is but will jump to a 7.0+ with a clean and press.

Not sure how accurate my grading skills are these days, been over 8 months since I sent out books to get cleaned/pressed and graded.

17 hours ago, Deadpoolica said:

6.0

I was in the 6.0/6.5 range on this.  Something about these early silver age books that make them really pop in person when they still have deep cover inks and gloss.

PGM ASM 23 - Really nice looking book, not sure how this happened to this book but top staple is detached from front cover but still attached to back cover.  I've seen it many times on beat up books but never on a book as clean as this.  Not sure what the highest grade that a book with that defect could get.

Have a few nice looking silver age marvel books that I keep going back and forth on.  Figured I would ask the boardies.

PGM ASM 24: looks like light staining Mid-Bottom Right side of FC but doesn't bleed into interior of cover or any pages; light dust shadow top of back cover with some micro tears.  Spine is really tight, off-white to white pages, interior pages are slightly miss cut.  Not sure what is on the back, looks like finger prints but not sure.  Either it is a light film that might be able to be removed or the gloss was lifted from handling, if anyone could tell me it would be appreciated.

Do the graders know what tier the books they are grading were submitted under? i.e. do they see that someone submitted a book under value tier before grading the book?

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I'm at 5.5/6.0 leaning more 6.0. press/clean by the right person shouldn't hurt the book, don't think you get more than a .5 grade increase due to the color break but the difference in price for that book .5 higher would justify eating the cost of the press. Just don't send it to anyone that uses a laundry iron to do their pressing.

Wow, now that is a pretty book. Keep in mind that I viewed the photos on my cell phone, which is making me blind since I stare at tiny pictures of comics all day zooming in to try to find tiny flaw, and my lovely newborn daughter hasn't let me sleep in a month.

There is no way that this book is a 5.0 or below in its current condition. I had a Spirit 22 graded a few years back that was a 5.0 and it had a long 2-3 inch tear on the back cover, cover inks werent nearly as nice and the book had multiple color breaking creases and a few smaller deeper creases on the FC almost like a printers crease. Can't tell if the circles are just imprints but a press clean should help, if the circles are imprints then the book may need to be pressed more than once, those deep imprints tend to pop back up after a week or two.

Also had a Bats 121 just come back a 5.0 and that Spirit is an older book and much nicer.

I'll go 6.0 current and if the circles are just imprints than it has a chance to bump to the 7.0/7.5 range (if the right person presses the book). Cgc tends to be more lienient on gold and early silver books. 

SOLD

For Sale: Sergeant  Fury and His Howling Commandos #13 CGC 9.2 with Off-White to White Pages, new unblemished holder.   

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SGT. Fury and His Howling Commandos #13 CGC 9.2 OW/W - SOLD

5 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

Congratulations! I'm very pleased I was wrong on this one, but apparently CGC has modified it's stance on books like this with large paper pleats. It's good to know for future reference... 

3 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

As Lion already expressed, that s the first 9.8 I've seen with any type of sizable paper production pleat.

Doesn't mean others don't exist. Others that I may have held in my hand and missed it due to it being encased, but that's the first I'm aware of seeing. Congrats!!

Thanks, thinking back, after reading the comments to this thread I figured that I would leave it ungraded since it was such a nice book raw that a 9.2 wouldn't do it justice in a slab. I stumbled upon a blog with interviews from someone from CGC and they specifically talked about manufacturing defects and how it affects CGC grading. There was some questions regarding printers creases and the answer was that they didn't lower the grade of the book. After reading that I figured I would get this graded at some point when making a submission to CGC. Not sure if this will always hold true but it was what I read in the interview.

Even if PC's won't lower the grade, not all PC's are created equal and some books have multiples which really can ruin the aesthetic of the book. I personally prefer small PC's to the older distributors strips that leave an ink type residue on the very top of the back cover. I've had and have seen many silver/bronze age books with these types of distributors stamps in high grade and it is pretty noticeable in the slab.

Just wanted to post this for members interested in PC's

On 5/9/2018 at 9:34 PM, Philflound said:

If the book is a 9.8 other than the printer crease, he would most likely get a 9.8, not a 

If the book is a 9.8 without the printer crease, then it would most likely stay a 9.8 with that small creases. This is really nothing compared to many other 9.8 books that have much worse printer creases. Check out many of the Marvel Spotlight CGC high grades out there on the market. Those books have tons of printer creases many times and still achieve 9.6 to 9.8. Right now I don't see any for sale or recent sales to give examples.

Bingo!

Finally decided to have it graded since it was too nice of a copy to read and I figured if I ever sell it then it should be graded.  Came back a 9.8 so I guess either the rest of the book was that nice or the printers crease wasn't counted as a defect.  This was a really nice looking book raw and the crease was small, pretty much unnoticeable in the CGC case.

Honestly, I think this book presented much nicer in hand and in the case than other 9.8's with smaller defects (small bends, small spine tick, extra ink from manufacturer). 

Just figured I would post in case people were curious about PC and how they affect grading.  You can see the PC clearly in the original post above.

On 4/17/2019 at 2:40 AM, Gnasher said:

Very nice Squad008, It's looking good in the slab  

Your prediction was pretty good, didn't need us at all 

Thanks, presents well in the case.  

My feelings on this book were pretty good but I always need/appreciate the help. 

Finally got around to getting this graded. I put this at a 3.5/4.0 with potential to get a 4.5/5.0 with a press clean. 

My best guess regarding the extreme outliers is that they were eBay BIN listings where the seller listed high but used the eBay feature to privately send an offer to an interested buyer at an undisclosed lower price. When sales complete this way, eBay shows that the item sold for it's full asking price and GPA picks up the data as though the it sold for that amount. 

If those sales weren't BIN through eBay then who knows. Regardless, I always disregard extreme high and low sales when analyzing a book. Low sales have the same issue when it comes to FMV as the book itself could have presented poorly, been damaged (gotta love the high grade sun damaged CGC books on eBay) or possibly a seller got the book super cheap and doesn't want to wait a few weeks/months to get FMV and lists it cheap to move right away.

Either way, high sales and low sales aren't manipulation, they are just outliers in a set of sales data that the individual looking at the data needs to decide whether or not to exclude. 

Oh yeah, let's not forget how many sales are made when eBay has a 10% to 15% off coupon. Yes the Seller gets full asking but the buyer paid 10-15% less and eBay subsidised the rest. Those coupons can create higher sales numbers especially on books where the discount doesn't exceed the $100 maximum discount that eBay usually limits it too.

 Reduced Prices on Remaining Books. Will keep them listed until Saturday.

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8 minutes ago, Gregd said:

Take

You got it, thanks! 

Jungle Action #5 CGC 8.0 with Off-White to White Pages - $95 Sold

New holder just received back from CGC

Avengers #112 CGC 8.5 with Off-White to White Pages - $140 Reduced to $130

First Appearance of Mantis

Swamp Thing #3 CGC 9.6 with Off-White to White Pages - $300 Reduced to $275

1st Full Patchwork Man, 1st App Abagail Arcane - tough book in grade, been heating up as the DC Streaming Swamp Thing show gets closer.

New holder just got back from CGC

Swamp Thing #1 CGC 9.2 with Off-White to White Pages - $425 Reduced to $400

Nice book that presents nicely. Just got this back today so it is in the newest holder.

Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos #13 CGC 9.0 Off-White - $600 Moved

Strange Tales #111 CGC 8.5 White Pages - $1000 Reduced to $950

1st Appearance of Asbestos Man! Oh yeah and 2nd Appearance of Dr. Strange, 1st App Baron Mordo

Scarce census numbers in 8.0 and above. Only 5 sales in 8.5 over past 3 years and only 1 sale in a higher grade which was 9.0. 2018 High was $1076, Low was $950.

Captain Britain #1 CGC 9.8 White Pages - $2500 Reduced to $2350

Tough key in high grade due to the Mask. Speaking of the mask, this book has it, and as proof just look at the scan. CGC graciously encapsulated this with a very small portion of the mask peaking out of the edge of the book. Book is being sold as is. Some might think this is a defect with the slab, I say it is proof that this copy has the mask intact  (if someone is interested but would like to discuss getting it re-holdered, please PM me. I just got this back about a week ago.)

Only 14 Blue label 9.8's in the census, last sale was 1.5 years ago. Book has been up over 50% in recent high grade sales. If the Captain Britain movie gets made, or he appears in Spider-Man Homecoming, this will be a great book to have. 

All Remaining Books Have Been Moved. If Someone Comes Across This Thread and Is Interested in Any of the Remaining Books, Send Me a PM.

Updated With Price Reductions - will leave up on the boards until Saturday and then remaining books will be moved. 

Books for Sale: 

• Captain Britain #1 CGC 9.8 with White Pages - $2500 Now $2350 Moved
• Strange Tales #111 CGC 8.5 with White Pages - $1000 Now $950 Moved
• Sgt. Fury and His Howling Comandos #13 CGC 9.0 with Off-White Pages Moved (Really no longer for sale, various reasons)
• Swamp Thing #1 (1st Series) CGC 9.2 with Off-White to White Pages - $425 Now $400 Moved
• Swamp Thing #3 (1st Series) CGC 9.6 with Off-White to White Pages - $300 Now $275 Moved
• Jungle Action #5 CGC 8.0 with Off-White to White Pages SOLD
• Avengers #112 CGC 8.5 with Off-White to White Pages - $140 Now $130    Moved       

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Books I'm looking for:

• Action #252 (4.0 or higher)
• Batman Adventures #12 (9.8 only)
• Batman #181 (8.0 and higher, would consider 7.0 or higher if book presents well)
• Detective Comics #359 (8.0 or higher, would consider a 7.5 if book presents well)
• Lois Lane #70 (9.2 or higher)