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On 11/5/2022 at 12:51 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Well this interesting on a lot of levels. The cgc label reflects a March 1941 publication date, but Cap 1 seems to have actually appeared on the stands December 1940.

It is official. According to The Catalog of Copyright Entries For Periodicals (1940), Captain America Comics #1 was released by Timely Comics on December 20, 1940 with a March, 1941 cover date.

On 10/26/2022 at 9:37 AM, woowoo said:

  April vs May Action 12 is first image 

Folks,

Here is the timeline for the first Batman house ads:

The two-line, black text house ad appears in the following comics. (The release date in parentheses for each book comes from The Catalog of Copyright Entries For Periodicals.)

Cover date April, 1939:

Action Comics #11 (3/2/39)
More Fun Comics #42 (3/5/39)
Detective Comics #26 (3/8/39)
Adventure Comics #37 (3/10/39)

Cover date May, 1939:

The last-panel house ad featuring an image of The Batman's head appears only in:

Action Comics #12 (3/24/39)

A one-line text only house ad reading "THE BATMAN appears every month in DETECTIVE COMICS! Don't miss him"" with THE BATMAN, and DETECTIVE COMICS printed in red ink appears in the following comics:

More Fun Comics #43 (3/28/39)
Adventure Comics #38 (4/3/39)

Detective Comics #27 was released (according to The Catalog of Copyright Entries For Periodicals) on 3/30/1939.

Therefore, the winners are:

First published mention of The Batman character: Action Comics #11
First published image of The Batman character: Action Comics #12
First appearance of The Batman character: Detective #27

National Periodical Publications printed one other comic title which could have contained a Batman house ad printed before the release of Detective #27:

Movie Comics #1 (Cover date April 1939)
Movie Comics #2 (Cover date May, 1939)

I was unable to find a copy of both online to examine. I was also unable to find either book in The Catalog of Copyright Entries For Periodicals. The only other piece of info I could find was that Movie Comics #1 contained an ad for All-American Comics #1. Like both Movie Comics, I could not find an entry in The Catalog of Copyright Entries For Periodicals, so the only time frame is its April, 1939 cover date.

Perhaps a boardie owns a copy of Movie Comics #1 and/or #2 and could check to see if an ad for The Batman appears there?

On 4/7/2022 at 2:45 PM, Gotham Kid said:

What !?

Anyone bidding on a Detective 33 and NOT knowing it contains Batman's origin story, should refrain from bidding on it in the first place.

If I consign a book to an auction house, I expect them to "sell" the book for me. That is what their fees are for. The main selling point of a Tec 33 is the origin story. Yes, bidders know the story is there, but stressing the point can help increase the bidding war that occurs each auction. On several occasions today, the auctioneer made comments that extended an auction that was winding down. One example--one of the Avengers pages was about to close when the auctioneer said the page contained the first appearance of Jarvis, and this started a new round of bidding.

The auctioneer did the Tec 33 seller no favors. He mentioned the origin of Batman only once--about 3/4 of the way thru the auction, and when he said the word "origin" his face was so far from the microphone that you could barely hear it. If I were the seller, I'd be demanding some or all of my fees back!

Re: Detective 33 outbidding Detective 35 by a wide margin in this auction

Is it possible that new buyers in the marketplace are not dumb rubes throwing money at an investment they don't fully understand (as many boardies have suggested); but instead are savvier comic book afficinados who know better that to merely judge a book's value by its cover art?

Tec 35 has a much better cover than Tec 33, but come on! A better cover compared to the Origin of Batman--arguably the second most famous story in the history of comics? There should be no comparison here. The real comparison should be between Tec 33 and Batman #1: the origin of an all-time great hero vs the first appearance of two of his all-time great villains.

Good point, Chillman! And if you can't acquire Detective #27 first story-appearance of Batman, be on the lookout for the next best thing: Detective 33, the origin of Batman! Arguably the second most famous story in the history of comics! Congratulations, pkchu! That is a nice copy you have there!

The comparison between the 7th Superman and 7th Batman is an interesting one. Second Superman cover vs. the origin of Batman.

I cannot, but I wish I could. Oh, how I wish I could!!!

Because it is the Bedrock variant, if you do find a copy, it will be graded 9.4 or higher!

Here is one of mine! The artist and character started in the Golden Age and both returned in the Bronze Age, so that averages out to Silver Age!

C.C. Beck was the featured guest at the 1975 HoustonCon. After his talk, Mr. Beck signed autographs and gave out black and white drawings. (I don't recall if there was a charge for the drawing, but I don't think so.) Everyone else wanted either Captain Marvel or his nemesis Dr. Sivana. But not me! I wanted a drawing of Mr. Mind! Mr. Beck was so impressed with my choice that he asked if he could color it in! Absolutely! He then asked me my name and wrote down that it was drawn for me! I'm pretty sure I was the only person who received a color drawing from him that weekend. Needless to say, I will never forget Mr. Beck's kindness and generosity!

To this day, Mr. Mind remains one of my all-time favorite comic book villians!

Thank you, Mr. Beck!!!

Wow, GK! That is one pretty book!!! Congrats!

I would own a nicer copy if Jon Berk had ever gotten around to upgrading it! But if he was happy with this copy, then so am I!

I believe that you are incorrect on most of the points you are making. First, ebay does not require immediate payment when offers are accepted. When my offers have been accepted, the item goes into My Ebay Purchased Items List as a sold item and I am given a reasonable amount of time to complete the transaction. On several occasions I have paid the day after my offer was accepted. Second, when I purchased a book from Comic Link, the book remained listed on their site, but with a "Sale Pending" notation. While the book was in a Sale Pending state, the boxes for making an offer or buying the book were removed. However, a Wait List button was placed beside the book. This feature allows other potential buyers to express their interest in the book should the pending sale fall through.

Finally, whereas this thread is primarily for posting and discussing comic books, this forum is always an excellent place to point out sellers who engage in what are believed to be poor, unethical, or illegal business practices.

From what I know about US contract law--and I am NOT a lawyer--a legally-binding, legally-enforceable contract required three elements: an offer (I will but or sell this), an acceptance (I agree to your terms), and a consideration (the price for the transaction, be it money, goods, or services). Contracts do contain a built-in time limit. I cannot enter into a contract and then wait 20 years to fulfill my end of the transaction unless this is stated in the contract. Despite anything else being said elsewhere on the website, the confirmation email clearly and distinctly states that the seller will agree to accept the offer for a period of 7 days, after which, he/she will consider the contract to be voided. This appears to me to be a legally-binding, legally-enforceable contract.

Without seeing any of the information the website sent to the other buyer, I would guess that the website ALSO entered into a legally-binding, legally-enforceable contract with the other buyer, too.

The most disconcerting aspect of this situation to me is that the website owner stated clearly that the website was purposefully set up in such as way as to allow this type of dual sale to occur.

You've Got A Friend - James Taylor

2 hours ago, VintageComics said:

Anybody bid in the AF #15 8.0 last week?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-CGC-8-0-UNRESTORED-1st-Appearance-of-Spider-Man-300K-VALUE-/282966203407?hash=item41e2199c0f%3Ag%3A8JUAAOSwB-Na-fo-&nma=true&si=Ke41Am6OAvLwXqlRhPVjhn5D%2F1c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Interesting to note that the user's name is trustme911 and that he/she mentions the bay's money-back guarantee not once, but twice.

Thank you for your reply, blazingbob. As I suspected, that is one beautiful book--except primarily for the chipping. I personally would much rather have that book than a 6.0 copy with no mc, but less color and noticeable spiderweb creases. In the mid-grade range, it's all a matter of what you want and what you can live with. Hence the much higher prices for 7.0's and above. Aside from their relative rarity, there is a lot less give and take when trying to choose a copy to buy.

I am curious to find out what everyone thinks about the 6.0 with mc that sold on Comicconnect:

https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=772380

If this book had no chipping, what grade would it carry? Obviously we do not know about any interior defects, but chipping aside, how would this book grade?

No point-by-point rebuttal is required here. The book graded a1.8 which is close to a 2.0. Of course he was hoping it would come back with the higher grade.

FYI--a married wrap means that the wrap came off a different copy of the book and was placed into this book.

Many thanks for posting this article! Although I understand why, in this current marketplace of slabbed comics, it saddens me that so many comic book collectors now seem to judge and value comics only by the book's cover. This article is a wonderful reminder that the story and art inside a comic is as important, if not more so, than the quality of the cover. This aspect of comics is something original art collectors have never forgotten. And perhaps this is why I have recently been getting the urge to join your ranks again soon! So thank you again, skrilla1212! I wish you all the best!

I hope it goes for less than that!

5 hours ago, MrBedrock said:

Straw wants the book, now I'm a delieverer.

Not a trace of doubt in my mind.

 

Dang it, Richard! Now I want a nice copy of The Monkees #1!