John S.

George was my favourite artist and someone whose works brought me endless joy over the decades. He was kind and generous, but most of all he was ever so humble and loved his fans.

RiP George, you gave us all so much.

Hell I would have paid $100k for it and just traded it to you Gene for some of the stuff that i have been asking for all these years 

On 6/25/2020 at 11:34 AM, NelsonAI said:

IMHO there are too many recreations of original covers, splashes and pin-ups.

If you like the original so much but can't obtain it, ( i.e., non-existent, too expensive, owner won't sell, etc.), just buy a poster of it and put it in a frame.  Better yet, buy a high grade CGC copy of it and frame it.

Many moons ago, I bought an original Spidey vs Green Goblin piece from the late Jim Mooney that he used for a poster to sell at conventions.

It was so popular, people started asking about the original art.  Instead of creating a new original with a different design and layout, Jim decided to do several recreations of the same piece.  At last count, there are 5 known recreations.

Even though, I bought the original, it no longer feels special or "one of a kind". 

Glen B just discussed his purchase of an ASM #350 recreation by inker Randy Emberlin.  Erik Larsen pencilled the original, Randy did the inks.  The original cover was destroyed in the infamous fire at Erik's home.  Someone passed it off as the original.  Glen got screwed.

Too many recreations are not clearly identified as recreations.  Artists should have some integrity and ethics.  When doing a recreation, maybe sign it as "Emberlin after Erik" along with the year the recreation was done.  Mark it as "Recreation"  on the reverse.

If it was an inks over blueline digital scan, DO NOT sign the penciller's name.  If there are no pencils underneath, you are just creating a forgery of the original artist.  Just sign your name if you worked on the recreation.

I don't need to see another "variant" Jack Kirby or David Finch cover out there.

If you really feel a need to get a "recreation", I like Michael Finn's concept of "One Minute Later" where the artist depicts the action as if the heroes / villians are moving in action and captured 1 minute later.  It pays homage to the original but has a new original design and layout.  In addition, it is drawn it the natural style of the artist that Michael hires.

My 2 cents.

Cheers!

N.

 

Well said, I agree completely.

26 minutes ago, t3quila said:

so did anyone here win the Space Ace piece then?

https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1644543&GSub=207588

Well well well, didn't take too long after our back and forth this morning about the rich and their habits, for you to post this.

Nuff said

I am partial to this double page cover.

On 7/3/2019 at 3:31 PM, Blastaar said:

Has anyone seen the original art to this cover? Love this iconic image. 

 

Yes I have seen the original art to this, if I recall it was up on CAF a long time ago. I am sure i have a scan of it somewhere.

1 minute ago, DJRome said:

My big question regarding this auction was whether any prop collectors would feel a desire to dabble in comic art, or would these lots go to art collectors? My gut said it would be art collectors, and that seems to be the case so far.

Good luck to the boardies who are bidding. If the reserves aren't punitive, I think you might pick up a bargain or two!

 

They have a great setup here showcasing the items to those at the auction, with some of the original art presented very well amongst other props. Whilst I would love to see some cross over happening, it doesn't look like it has.

10 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

the early Flash page had only three bids come through to GBP 42,500. That didn't make the low end of the GBP 45k estimate, and there was some mumbling so I couldn't tell if it sold or if it passed.

The Flash did not sell and although the auctioneer showed that he was taking floor bids (which raised the price up to the estimate), in fact no one was bidding in the room.

They definately do things different to some other auctions I have been at, as on a lot of lots they are taking bids (supposidly) from floor bidders upto the estimate and then waiting for actual bidders to bid from thst point on.

Personally I would prefer the transparency of just starting the bidding from the reserve and not making out that floor bidders are taking the price up from the actual price up to the reserve.

I am at the auction Dan.

There are about 50 people here bidding in total but so far no one is bidding on any of the OA

On 9/11/2018 at 8:28 PM, Ironmandrd said:

Even the Cabal does not know many of them (although each Cabal member may confidentially know one or several). 

I missed this bit initially... So Ironmandrd are you confirming the existence of a Cabal ??

Looking for any high end Covers or Splashes from their work on DC or Marvel. If you have any pieces please PM me and let me know.

A new addition to my CAF Gallery - Byrne Namor Cover

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1493811

4 hours ago, romitaman said:

last 2-3 years its been up and very viewable at EVERY SHOW!

Mike, as Ironmandrd said, this was definately one of his hidden stash when I saw it, and it was definately not for all to see at that show. I can't comment about what he did with it at the next show he was at, but it was not on his wall at that NYCC, on any of the days.

1 hour ago, pemart1966 said:

This one has apparently been at major cons for a few years now so chances are pretty good that it's known by most, if not all, who are looking...

He wasn't publicly showing it a couple of years ago when I saw it. It was select customer only, very hush hush.

I'm sure that over the last year he went through most of the likely candidates in this way, and with no takers decided to put it on display properly.

Bechara had this at NYCC a couple of years back at a number that was around the $350k range I believe. 

Surprised that he is consigning this to auction.

13 hours ago, t3quila said:

So the Cabal exists then? Always suspected there was a UK chapter, I figured you, the guy outside of Tottenham Court tube station with the Golf Sale sign and the enigmatic Mr Melchior were all members...

Don't know about Melchoir, but the guy with the Golf Sign is a definite.

5 hours ago, t3quila said:

Funnily enough a boardie won this artwork

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1489633

Imran, Imran Imran....I would expect nothing less from "the most connected and influential collector in Europe"    (Cabal private joke)

22 hours ago, Doc Joe said:

Have numerous pieces over the years where I have received CAF mails asking to sell something; what do you do in that situation when you are finally interested in selling? 

At the moment I have messaged the 4 people who did show interest in a piece and said feel free to make an offer. 

I know I hate the old 'there are several collectors interested' but there really are!!!!

Or do you just stick it in an auction and see what happens when you open it to hundreds of collectors?

Joe

 

Just sell it to me and save yourself all the trouble  

45 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

Based on the quality of the cover, and recent auction sales, I'd say more in the $6-$8K range.

I think you will find that the Wonder Woman market has moved up a lot over the last year, especially the Perez items.

Right now In auction, this would definately go higher than the numbers quoted, as I know of a number of collectors on the look out for Perez WW covers, who have been asking around.

6 hours ago, tth2 said:

No John, the specific example I used was a piece where the existence was not certain and it was fresh to the market.  You may remember I referred to the AF 15 cover, which you reasonably conjectured did not exist based on several data points, but on the other hand could not prove for sure that it did not exist.  

Why would I use a known piece as an example?  It would be crazy for someone to try forge the first Wolverine panel, for example, because there'd be a few zillion people who know the page was sold on Heritage and would question the authenticity if the provenance couldn't be proved. 

Well obviously a miscommunication somewhere along the line as whilst i remember you using the AF #15 cover as an example, i believed that was just a singular example of an expensive piece, and genuinely thought you were just talking about art that was out there, and not unknown art pieces that have never surfaced. It was extremely loud where we were, so maybe i didnt hear correctly, or maybe i had drunk too much by that stage.

As i mentioned previously, in those cases it would need to be authenticated by experts.

4 hours ago, NelsonAI said:

Nick Katradis and I are teaming up.  This will be the first time that either of us has officially set up as exhibitors.  We look forward to catching up with old friends and meeting new ones at the show.  Please stop by and say hello.

Cheers!

N.

 

 

You and Nick, 

Look forward to seeing you there.

18 minutes ago, tth2 said:

When I was in London recently and met up with some Boardies, the question of forgeries was raised with the prominent OA collector in the group.  His answer was that the provenance of every significant piece of OA was so well known that no forged piece could possibly be foisted on the market, at least not amongst the cognoscenti.

I admire anyone who is able to have that degree of certainty about anything in life.

Tim the conversation (by that point you had drunk a few, so are forgiven)  was discussing known pieces and being able to identify a forgery of one of those notable pieces, given the right level of connections and the small amount of players at that level.

Obviously with earlier art covers not known to exist and specific later covers like the FF 48-50, would need to be left to the experts to identify any forgeries.