eastcoaster

I understand but it a straightforward change to the software that the developer could do that would be very helpful to pressers and their customers.

Please add a feature where a submitter can add a CGC member number to their submission so that the named member can view the submission status and grades. This would be super useful for tracking submissions made by dealers and pressers.

Can you do this?

Cap 321?

I haven't seen any 9.8s with it on eBay.

There is a gray pencil-like mark on many Hulk 340s I've seen (above head). Also many don't have it. Is it considered a grade-hurting mark or an ignorable print defect?

1 hour ago, Funnybooks said:

If it’s a known manufacturer defect, the grade will not take a hit.

if you show us the rest of the book, it will help us analyze it better?
 

based on this one single pic, the top edge appears to have a minor defect and likely already takes the book out of 9.8 contention

I meant to focus on the impact of the jagged corner, not the rest of the book.

My understanding is that CGC will ignore minor manufacturing defects that affect the majority of the run. However, if the defect is worse than the norm for that run, it will impact the grade. 

In this case the missing corner is unfortunately nasty so think the grade might get dinged down a lot. I don't think it would be as bad if the chip was elsewhere on the edge.

If the possible grade varies from 9.0 to 9.8, that graded price is $100 to $1400. If the book was bought dirt cheap it might still be worth sinking in pressing and grading fees to make a small return (worst case).

It's too risky to pay a high grade raw price since the CGC grade could have a wide range. The only way to know the outcome is to get it graded.

7 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

IMO, it's a 9.0 at worst if it's not accepted as a MFG defect, and if the rest of the book is Mint.

There's a lot of ifs involved in this scenario. I can't speak on CGC's behalf lol.

Cool, thanks! Yeah, I feel it'd be a real crapshoot depending on how CGC decides to handle it. Anywhere from a 9.8 to 9.0 and that assumes the rest of the book is perfect.

1 minute ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

If it's truly a manufacturing defect, then it maxes out at 9.8 grade. If it's perfect other than this defect, then it should be a 9.8.

Got it, thanks! What if it's not considered a defect and the corner is taken into account when grading? Does it drop to a 9.2 or 9.0?

1 minute ago, marvelmaniac said:

You peaked my curiosity, mine has the same defect, "slight jagged edge" at the outer top of the back cover and all interior pages.

It's common for this book. It's my belief that CGC gives it a pass but in the posted case I'm wondering if the corner is bad enough to cause a grade hit.

1 minute ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

Let's pretend that it's perfect other than this alleged "manufacturing defect". It would be a 9.8.

Are you saying it'd receive a 9.8 as is? My concern is that the corner would cause a big grade hit.

On 9/11/2020 at 3:15 AM, herc2000 said:

I thought CGC was meant to be impartial and third party? What prices fetch should be irrelevant, if it's flawless, then it should be a 10 regardless of value, otherwise what's the point in having a 10 point scale if it's rarely used, or to only be used sparingly. By using it sparingly, they are creating the prices to be 10x, it there were multiple 9.9's or 10's then the value would not be so high to begin with. I've seen 9.8 Hulk 181's better than that 9.9 Hulk 181. I've heard some dealers say it depends on who submits it as to what grade you might get when you get to the 9.8-10 criteria, but who knows.

I didn't mean they are biased, just that there is a very high bar for a 9.9 or 10.

I believe many Marvel Transformers 1 comics have a jagged back top cover edge.

The comic in question has the cover and multiple pages chopped off. See pic.

If CGC doesn't give a pass to this known manufacturing defect, what would the grade be based on the corner alone? Assume the rest of the book is 9.8.

Do you think CGC would ignore the defect?

6 hours ago, Jennifer F. said:

Good morning, thanks for your message.  Tracking information on a submission would only be accessible to the customer that submitted the order.  If a facilitator is submitting the book on your behalf then that facilitator would be considered the customer and only they would have access to tracking information about that invoice.  The only way for you to track something directly would be if you submitted that to us yourself under your own customer number.  

If you have any other questions, please let us know.  Thank you!

Thanks!

Would you be able to add a feature so that when dealers submit comics on a customer's behalf, the customer can track their submission? Basically the dealer would give the CGC member number and the member would then see the submission through their own account.

No not me, just saw someone posting about it on Facebook.

Thanks!

Is there a new issue with modern books having color lift when removed from slabs due to unstable ink elements?

10 hours ago, MadGenius said:

Go with 3204 Auctions: https://cgcsubscription.com/

 

This one looks good!

1 hour ago, Krismusic said:

I think he might be referring to guys like J scott Campbell who will guarantee a 9.8 SS for x dollars when it releases as they probably send a bunch of books as its releases to get slabbed. I've also seen this with a comic investment site and the books that come back 9.8 instead of the 9.9 or 10's usually sell for less but its all pre done with a guarantee or a refund I guess. 

No, I read posts that some companies get you 9.8s of new releases. My research said Beachbum Comics is one but I don't see anything about on their page.

I've heard of services that deliver CGC 9.8s of new comics as they're coming out. Does anyone have any they'd recommend? Thanks!

On 1/29/2020 at 7:28 PM, RockMyAmadeus said:

Yeah, it's certainly a lot of fun. The buildup to this series was phenomenal. It's a nice way to get McFarlane Spidey art on the cheap.

Unfortunately the Spider-Man run was forgettable despite the great art.

Also, aside from the ASM Venom issues the ASM run had some pretty weak issues.  

On 1/6/2020 at 11:02 AM, Joe Ankenbauer said:

OK. I don't think it's out of line to use previous sales to help you determine what would be an acceptable price to pay. If the last sale for a book was $400 and a seller is asking $800 for the same book (grade and issue), I can safely say that the $800 asking price is way too high.

 

Joe

There's nothing you can do with some sellers. Either they'll get serious about selling and lower their price or somebody will pay what they're asking. Some sellers do little research about the going rate and charge what they FEEL the comic must be worth.

Worth it depends on the book first and then the condition. If it's a key book and it looks flawless, it might be worth getting graded. If it isn't flawless you will likely take a bath.

I agree that the price spread is crazy but it is totally appropriate in that the market is what it is. 

16 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

The reason people don't spend the money on 9.9s and 10s is because they are functionally uncollectable. You cannot put together a run of 9.9 almost anything. You can put together a run of 9.8 of virtually everything printed past 1975.

True, but I still see 9.9s floating around of books I want but won't pay. Spending $300 on a 9.8 or spending $3000 on the 9.9 is an easy choice. A 9.9 or 10 is pretty much bragging rights only.

6 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Exactly correct. Because "8" is a bigger number than "6."

The vast majority of people...even of the people who buy these slabs...could not point out those minor differences if you asked them to. They rely entirely on the number on the case.

As I said earlier:

 

It depends entirely on the book and what's available. If there are 1,000 9.8s and only 1 9.6, that 9.6 would still almost certainly not be as valuable as all thousand 9.8s. There are books for which the prices of 9.8s to 9.6s are fairly equal, since the book itself is, on the whole, relatively uncommon, with relatively low demand.

I don't agree that the price spread between 9.8 and 9.6 is appropriate. I think it's utter lunacy that most 9.8s sell for multiples of 9.6s, when the absolute differences are miniscule to non-existent.

But that's the market for you. "8" is a higher number than "6."

Well, the multiple is a real market thing set by what people are willing to pay. Yes, it doesn't seem worth it when you consider the miniscule differences but the differences somehow justify the premium in the mind of the collector. For better or worse, I fall into the 9.8 or bust category.

One interesting point is that there's a ceiling at 9.8. Most people are satisfied with that grade and do not want to spend 3x to 10x to get a 9.9 or 10. The 9.6 to 9.8 jump is harsh but not unaffordable. The 9.8 to 9.9 jump usually is.

9.8 is the best grade I can justify given my financial limitations. My obsession with grade weakens when the prices become insane. I'd be fine with a 7.0 Hulk 181 but I'm not going to drop $60k on a 9.8.