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so what did you pay? i have a feeling the seller had an idea of what he had.. so it must not have

been cheap. yes.. i am impolite enough to ask in public.

i think the later Visions comics from the Atlanta Fantasy Fair are hard to find.

I am still missing #8 to this day and I have looked for years now. Thank fully I

managed to find 7 and 9 on ebay but had to fight to own them.

I always admired his artwork and stories but he never was a must have for me. odd that.

sort of like love and rockets to be honest. i always admired it but never really got into it.

dave stevens was like that to me.

he does represent to me the good times in comic collecting though. the early 1980s time frame

so just for that he gets much love.

Why are we out of our ever lovin' minds for wanting the best? Surely you collect CGC TMNT comics if you are on these boards. I didn't win those auctions because I already have those books but I'd pay that high for them if I didn't have them and needed them to complete my 9.8 collection. Some of us have money to blow and in this hobby, some of us like as close to perfect as possible.

 

I bought a TMNT #8 CGC 9.8 a couple of years ago but then later sold it back once I realized it had "off-white to white pages" on it. I only collect CGC 9.8 or higher with white pages only.

 

I do this because this is a hobby and the highest grade books get the bragging rights, the highest investment value, and the closest means of perfection for that hobby. I'm not a perfectionist in real life nor do I obsess over anything else. I just like my graded books to be the best of the best.

 

You can say it doesn't matter all you want, but i'm sure if you are a diehard TMNT collector, and you saw a collection of original volume 1 TMNT comics all CGC 9.8, it would bother you more than you think when you look at your colleciton of 9.6 or lower. Just a theory. I just think that us 9.8 collectors take pride in what we have as not everyone can afford it nor does everyone appreciate the pristine nature of the book inside. That's my rant. Now I said it. I've had my party and cried since I wanted to. The end.

 

there is really not much to say about your rant. there is no wrong way to collect.

it just makes me dislike cgc to be honest. they have changed the hobby in a way

that just does not work for me. it is less and less about the comic and more and

more about a little label in a plastic slab.

you just sort of dissed a 9.6 compared to a 9.8. i find that so hard to comprehend.

a totally little minor difference (if there is even one) and somehow it is not as nice

as the next minor fractional grade up.

they are both near perfect. if cracked out there is a slight chance either of them

could come back a different grade.

sigh. there is no wrong way to collect anything but i think the koolaid was readily

accepted by quite a few collectors and cgc was counting on that. they know there

is a segment of the market that just eats it up. hook line and sinker.

i was pleased as punch just to get to read the stories. it is a bonus that most of the

turtle books are still sitting raw and unbagged in a desk drawer at my mom's house

for the last 20 some years. Maybe one day i will read them again without having

to pay up for the second time.

end of my rant.

my goodness.. it is amazing how many of these i have read based on looking at

the covers. seems no one wanted them during the 1980-1990s and i could buy

them for a song.. even given to me back then.

i wonder if anything has changed on the low, mid, and high end? did cgc make

these titles go crazy too?

i still have hundreds of pages to look at yet!

only a 3rd print for me also. i just was not paying attention to the title when it

first came out. sigh! my budget did not fit so something had to suffer. Figures it

was a now expensive book.

what is special about the book besides a low print run?

 

do people want to pay up for the Vigil artwork and/or is the story extra special?

It's the First appearance of Tim Vigil's Faust. If not for that I would not even bother looking for it.

ah, that explains everything. i had no idea Faust was in that book.

what is special about the book besides a low print run?

do people want to pay up for the Vigil artwork and/or is the story extra special?

I haven't purchased one in ages but I remember my old Overpriced Street Guide use to have an "(extreme violence)" notation next to the Grips listing.

Was GRIPS the first comic at the time pushing the violence envelope?

I don't think so. Maybe the most popular one to do it though. There was an endless supply of homebrew comics at the time and the more obscure they got, the more violent and smutty they got. I think Silverwolf came around towards the end of the B&W boom, around 86 or later. They say the "boom" started after TMNT #1 hit the stands, but there were plenty of B&W indies out at that time and before, just not fetching crazy prices.

The earliest I can recall off hand is the flaming carrot in Visions #1. The Carrot

would be running around with pistols in hand just blasting people on a whim.

This would be 1978.

But I am sure there are some indy zines or what not that are even earlier as the

above poster mentioned. Grips was very late to the game but rather graphic to

say the least.

I clearly remember Grips. I think I had a 1-3. As for the story I only have vague

recollections but I do recall rereading it a few times. Just seeing a cover helps

it all come back to me. It was definitely better then a lot of other stuff I bought

at the time as I rarely reread .

But I am afraid I would never seek it out again. My tastes have changed.

Cool post though!