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On 12/17/2023 at 4:51 PM, CGC Mike said:
Our Database Specialist has been very busy. When I am provided with any answers to people's requests, I will post them. Meanwhile, enjoy all of the free popcorn.
Hi @CGC Mike can you let me know if my requests for "First Cover Appearance" were considered for the following books:
ASM #51 - Kingpin
ST #118 - Dr. Strange
New Gods #2 - Darkseid
Captain Marvel #28 - Thanos
Also, I agree with Batman #6 - first full appearance of Court of Owls would be a great addition!
Thanks so much!
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On 1/24/2024 at 4:07 PM, revat said:
i don't know if they exist, but there is a 'want to buy' subforum. you can consider posting there.
Ok will do. Thank you!!!
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Understood! Thanks guys!
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On 1/24/2024 at 5:02 PM, revat said:
you should consider posting this in the "want to buy" subforum. If you dig around a bit you'll find it.
This one is for people selling.
Where is that subforum located?
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Hi guys,
Does anyone know if Boseman signed any FF52 books with CGC? I know he did a few signings at conventions. There are a few signed books on Ebay, all modern, some with higher census counts than others.
Would love to find this book if possible!
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Does anyone know if Boseman signed any FF52 books with CGC? I know he did a few signings at conventions. Would love to find this book if possible!
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Hi guys,
Does anyone know if Boseman signed any FF52 books with CGC? I know he did a few signings at conventions. There are a few signed books on Ebay, all modern, some with higher census counts than others.
Would love to find this book if possible!
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The key element of a book in terms of recognition is the front cover. For CGC to assign a 0.5 grade to a book with a fully intact front cover and the same grade to a book that is completely missing its front cover is unjustifiable.
As a collecting community, evidence states that it is important for us to point out grading inconsistencies so that those who are grading books for us have an agreed-upon methodology for doing so. In this case, it is very clear that a book with a front cover should be seen as superior to one that has no front cover, yet still has a back cover.
Example:
CGC Cert # 0118834001 Grade: 0.5
COVERLESS/INCOMPLETE
Label Text: COVERLESS. CENTERFOLD MISSING, DOES NOT AFFECT STORY. INCOMPLETE. Grader Notes: Interior Centerfold Missing Staple Lite Rusted Whole Book Water Damage Through BookShould CGC change its census report to state that one of the existing 0.5 grades is a “COVERLESS” copy?
Going forward, Should CGC have a new line time “0.5 NO COVER” on the census for books without the front cover?
Otherwise, if there is no sales data on any of the paid websites such GPA, Go Collect, etc. a savvy collector has no way of knowing if the entry-grade copies have existing covers. The existence of a front cover is of monumental value and importance compared to the ones without it. This completely warrants a notation on the CGC census. As the non-existence of a front cover often leads to an NG grade, putting this notation is of great importance for full disclosure and awareness to collectors looking to acquire entry-level unrestored key books. The knowledge of which books are visually recognizable because of them having their front cover is a critical thing to consider when investing in these rarities.
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Can someone alert GPA of this recent Fake ebay sale?
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On 9/18/2023 at 6:47 PM, AJD said:
There's nothing to discuss. That was standard practice until 2008, when the NG designation was introduced for coverless and substantially incomplete books
Many coverless books have received 0.5 grades over the last few years.
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Opening a discussion with full disclosure about all of the nuances of entry-level Golden Age keys is of more importance than has previously been discussed. The cultural importance of these artifacts has never been higher, and modern price points require one to be more discerning about these nuances on what makes the grade. This way, better decisions of value can be assessed. For example, the recent sale of a 0.5 copy of Action Comics #1 at 408k illustrates the importance of discussing all of the nuances of the book that make one copy more valuable than another. Examples include:
• Presentable covers vs. cover missing
• Tears to portions of the cover that remove key artwork and trade dressing.
• Writings and other obstructions to key artwork and trade dressing.Many new and old collectors want to own these unrestored grails and this is the best way to help them properly assess purchasing at these levels. At this stage in the hobby, a clear disclosure and discourse of how entry-level grades are valued by collectors is more important than ever. Informational tools such as the CGC census, paid sales data websites such as GPA, and forums like ours that identify the nuances of defects and desirability of the structural presentation of the book are very important, especially with entry-grade copies.
It has come to my attention that a coverless copy of Action #1 was given the 0.5 grade designation back in 2003. Let's discuss it!
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Opening a discussion with full disclosure about all of the nuances of entry-level Golden Age keys is of more importance than has previously been discussed. The cultural importance of these artifacts has never been higher, and modern price points require one to be more discerning about these nuances on what makes the grade. This way, better decisions of value can be assessed. For example, the recent sale of a 0.5 copy of Action Comics #1 at 408k illustrates the importance of discussing all of the nuances of the book that make one copy more valuable than another. Examples include:
• Presentable covers vs. cover missing
• Tears to portions of the cover that remove key artwork and trade dressing.
• Writings and other obstructions to key artwork and trade dressing.Many new and old collectors want to own these unrestored grails and this is the best way to help them properly assess purchasing at these levels. At this stage in the hobby, a clear disclosure and discourse of how entry-level grades are valued by collectors is more important than ever. Informational tools such as the CGC census, paid sales data websites such as GPA, and forums like ours that identify the nuances of defects and desirability of the structural presentation of the book are very important, especially with entry-grade copies.
It has come to my attention that a coverless copy of Action #1 was given the 0.5 grade designation back in 2003. Let's discuss it!
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Hi All!
I've been doing a lot of research on the Action Comics #1 0.5 grade that just sold for 408K and some of the info I found was very interesting. Of the 44 unrestored copies of the census, there are (3) 0.5 grades. I wanted to see if any of those other copies were presentable with intact cover artwork. According to GPA, the other copy in 0.5 that has ever sold is the following:
1) CGC Cert # 0118834001 Grade: 0.5
COVERLESS/INCOMPLETE
Label Text COVERLESS. CENTERFOLD MISSING, DOES NOT AFFECT STORY. INCOMPLETE. Grader Notes Interior Centerfold Missing Staple Lite Rusted Whole Book Water Damage Through Book
Should CGC update the census on this or add some kind of asterisk here? Perhaps they can add a new line that says 0.5 Coverless? This seems to be the most responsible path for full disclosure to collectors. The lack of a cover is the defect that decreases the value of a book the most by far. Full disclosure of this defect is something that should be noted on the CGC census. Considering the inconsistency that some coverless books are receiving 0.5 grades with others receiving NG makes it even more important that coverless copies are notated on the census. Perhaps a new pinned topic could relate to coverless copies of 0.5 CGC books? This way the census can be updated accordingly going forward.
There are (1) 1.0 and (2) 1.5 copies out there as well. In today's market, those copies would all likely fetch close to or over 1M, thus making the recent sale likely the most affordable/presentable copy of an entry-level grade in existence. Has anyone else seen pictures of another unrestored 0.5 Action Comics #1 before?
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Hi All!
I've been doing a lot of research on the Action Comics #1 0.5 grade that just sold for 408K and some of the info I found was very interesting. Of the 44 unrestored copies of the census, there are (3) 0.5 grades. I wanted to see if any of those other copies were presentable with intact cover artwork. According to GPA, the other copy in 0.5 that has ever sold is the following:
1) CGC Cert # 0118834001 Grade: 0.5
COVERLESS/INCOMPLETE
Label Text: COVERLESS. CENTERFOLD MISSING, DOES NOT AFFECT STORY. INCOMPLETE. Grader Notes: Interior Centerfold Missing Staple Lite Rusted Whole Book Water Damage Through Book
Should CGC update the census on this or add some kind of asterisk here? Perhaps they can add a new line that says 0.5 Coverless? This seems to be the most responsible path for full disclosure to collectors. The lack of a cover is the defect that decreases the value of a book the most by far. Full disclosure of this defect is something that should be noted on the CGC census. Considering the inconsistency that some coverless books are receiving 0.5 grades with others receiving NG makes it even more important that coverless copies are notated on the census. Perhaps a new pinned topic could relate to coverless copies of 0.5 CGC books? This way the census can be updated accordingly going forward.
There are (1) 1.0 and (2) 1.5 copies out there as well. In today's market, those copies would all likely fetch close to or over 1M, thus making the recent sale likely the most affordable/presentable copy of an entry-level grade in existence. Has anyone else seen pictures of another unrestored 0.5 Action Comics #1 before?
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Hi all!
Similar to Wonder Woman, Joker, Catwoman, (Sensation #1, DC #40 and #122 respectively), and many other great characters, the below books should be given the designation “first cover appearance of _____”
1. Strange Tales #118 - Dr. Strange
Depicted in the bottom 1/4 of the book with his name displayed prominently. He is also holding the Eye of Agamotto, a key item in the character’s mythos. More than a floating head that is for sure!
2. New Gods #2 - Darkseid
Depicted with his name displayed prominently. He is at the forefront and drawn larger than any of the posse of characters behind him. Much more than a tiny floating head.
3. Amazing Spider-Man #51 - Kingpin
Depicted prominently on the cover.
4. Captain Marvel #28 - Thanos
Depicted prominently on the cover.
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Is this foxing contagious to the other books I am storing this book with? I bough this book in its current state. My books are all stored in a temperature controlled environment.
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Grader Notes:
• Back Cover Multiple Stain
• Center Spine Spine Split
• Center Spine Tear
• Front Cover Multiple Stain
• Right Bottom Front Cover Small Scratch
• Spine Hole
• Spine Roll
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I was just thinking it would interesting to discuss this since it is the first of its kind "newsstand 9.8" only auction!
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Wow these are some of the best newsstand issues ever! Check it out:
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Some killer books on here! Do you guys think the market is cooling down or will these do better than past sales?
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