I understand now. If you reread my initial post, I refer to them as pence copies in the beginning and it's only when I'm speaking speculatively in reference to the hesitant collector who likely doesn't understand exactly what they are, do I call them foreign copies. I say that from experience, that some collectors and dealers that I've met that don't really understand them, call them that.
I mentioned your "dont" merely as an example of unnecessary criticism, but you already knew that. No worries here, it's cool.