PGM TMNT #1

[oakman29]

7.5 on a lucky day, 6.5 - 7.0 if the grader didn't like his oat meal that morning.

 

that corner crease really pops and there's a lot of other stuff going on, magnified by the black cover, true, but they're there.

 

yes, there are worse 9.0s and 8.5s out there, but don't we usually say "WTF?" when we see them?

 

i'm curious as to what CGC does with it too. maybe i'm wrong.

 

Your right on target my friend (thumbs u

[RockMyAmadeus]

7.5 on a lucky day, 6.5 - 7.0 if the grader didn't like his oat meal that morning.

 

that corner crease really pops and there's a lot of other stuff going on, magnified by the black cover, true, but they're there.

 

yes, there are worse 9.0s and 8.5s out there, but don't we usually say "WTF?" when we see them?

 

i'm curious as to what CGC does with it too. maybe i'm wrong.

 

Your right on target my friend (thumbs u

 

"You're"

 

And that corner crease is not a deal breaker....not on a mag.

 

I notice no one's responded to to what they see that I don't...

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

If you guys think this book is a 7.0, then all I can say is, "Back up the truck!"

 

This is IMO a 7.0,could very well get a 6.5

What does back up the truck mean? That you would take all the 7.0s I have that look like this?I know the whole black book syndrome,but defects are defects regardless of the color of the book.

Show us the grade after you have sent the book into CGC.

 

Care to make a friendly wager?

 

I'm up for a friendly wager.

 

PM sent

 

Since there's potential NCB damage that is hidden in the fields, it's tough to make a wager on this.

[divad]

Obviously, it's impossible to grade a black covered book by photos.

 

Based on what I can see:

 

1. a 1/2" to 3/8" color breaking crease, URFC (obviously, the worst flaw and biggest grade hit.)

 

2. 1"+ slight blunting along top edge, ULBC

 

3. 3/8" color breaking spine crease, LBC

 

4. Small bindery tear bottom of spine, slight impact damage back cover

 

5. 1/8" to 1/4" color breaking spine crease, LFC

 

6. slight spine flecks along spine edge

 

7. couple of 1/8" or less color breaking spine creases, upper spine

 

8. very, very slight chatter along the top edge

 

Based solely on what is visible to me, I have no rpoblem with this book being an 8.5 or even a 9.0.

 

Now...that doesn't mean there's not damage that's hiding. There's a lot that can't be seen in a scan, especially non color breaking dents, bends, etc, and spine stress in the "busy" areas of the spine.

 

But based solely on what I can see from this scan, 8.5. 9.0 on a good day. 8.0 on a bad day.

 

And whether or not CGC is "harsh" on Cerebus #1 and TMNT #1 (which I don't agree with), keep in mind that damage on magazine size books has slightly less of an impact on the grade than on regular books, because there's obviously a lot more book to be damaged.

 

Who knows, maybe I'm smoking crack. But I daresay I have a fair amount of experience grading these kinds of books, so take that for what it's worth.

 

Ok, I will . . . THIS is how you grade a book.

[bryan91]

If you guys think this book is a 7.0, then all I can say is, "Back up the truck!"

 

This is IMO a 7.0,could very well get a 6.5

What does back up the truck mean? That you would take all the 7.0s I have that look like this?I know the whole black book syndrome,but defects are defects regardless of the color of the book.

Show us the grade after you have sent the book into CGC.

 

Care to make a friendly wager?

 

I'm up for a friendly wager.

 

PM sent

 

Since there's potential NCB damage that is hidden in the fields, it's tough to make a wager on this.

 

The wager has been made. 7.5 we push. I have 7.0 and lower. Not that I don't want the OP to get a better grade though.

[gradejunky]

I think 8.0 is fair 7.0 just seems a lil low to me. Only a couple of larger flaws. no serious spine stresses.

Then again in hand if there are serious finger dents and such I could go to around 7.0.

[divad]

Jeez, looky this one If this book gets an 8.0, then my money's already in the bank

 

[bryan91]

[divad]

I knew that one would get a rise out of you!

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