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The Daily Grade: Defenders #14

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CGC doesn't really downgrade for rust on staples unless it is severe.

 

Not true.

 

I don't disagree, but I would venture this book would get a 9.4 893scratchchin-thumb.gif In hand, I graded it a 9.6, and I can see a .2 deduction.

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true! i've seen CGC NM 9.4's with rust on the staple. FF can back me up on this point where ever he is.

 

Was the book a 9.8 otherwise? Or was it just a speck of rust on what would have been a 9.6? I will bet you that any visible rust (no matter how slight) on whatever book you saw was downgraded at least .2.

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CGC doesn't really downgrade for rust on staples unless it is severe.

 

Not true.

 

They downgrade somewhat severely in my opinion if you have a book with what would grade 9.6 possible 9.8 it would come back a 9.2 with something like that on the staple and I can attest to this as I have sent books in with varying degrees (4) of them to have some knowledge about it.

 

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I'd be very interested to know about this "rust deduction" as well, so if anyone has a firm answer from CGC, please post it.

 

What does OS have to say on the subject? I keep seeing "discoloration" mentioned, along with Rusty at 3.0?

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Im sorry but the rust on that staple wont get it above 9.0!

 

Davidking623

 

Sorry DK, I respectfully disagree. Page 146 of the Grading Guide 9.8:

 

"Staples: Must be original, generally centered and clean with no rust."

 

Page 154 of the Grading Guide 9.6:

 

"Staples: Must be original, generally centered, with only the slightest discoloration."

 

Clearly, the absence of ANY rust is mandated only in a 9.8 and above, and I believe that the instant example qualifies as "the slightest discoloration."

 

In fact, according to the Guide, a 9.4 book may even have a REPLACED staple, as long as it is "vintage".

 

BTW gents, it's been listed:

 

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Im sorry but the rust on that staple wont get it above 9.0!

 

Davidking623

 

Sorry DK, I respectfully disagree. Page 146 of the Grading Guide 9.8:

 

"Staples: Must be original, generally centered and clean with no rust."

 

Page 154 of the Grading Guide 9.6:

 

"Staples: Must be original, generally centered, with only the slightest discoloration."

 

Clearly, the absence of ANY rust is mandated only in a 9.8 and above, and I believe that the instant example qualifies as "the slightest discoloration."

 

In fact, according to the Guide, a 9.4 book may even have a REPLACED staple, as long as it is "vintage".

 

BTW gents, it's been listed:

 

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But, per the OGG, rust "migration" (meaning rust on the cover from the staples) is not allowed above 7.0.

 

Check yo'self before you wreck yo'self. -- Ali G.

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