Fraud? Thoughts? Action 1 AND Batman 1 in the same auction?

[dam60]

Okay, check out this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=68&item=2153323227&rd=1

Now, my bet is that these are those 70s reprints without the covers.

Initial thoughts:

1 - if you had both of these beautiful books, why would you sell them together? No one has the cash to buy them both together and you would run into a serious cash crunch. If you ran them separately you could have the serious Batman collectors bid on the Batman and the serious Supes collectors bid on the Action, makes sense, no?

2 - have you seen his feedback? The guys is a total poser . . .

3 - emails

 

Let me share with you some of the emails that he has sent to me . . .

 

Email 1

All sales final and I don't know if it is a reprint or not, How do I

tell?

----- Original Message -----

> Are these first prints? IF they are not can I return them for a full

refund? I know that in the 70s DC reprinted the books as is, would

these be

copies of those books?

>

> Thank you,

>

> DAM

 

Email 2

> William, in the 70s DC reprinted these and they looked

> exactly the same as the originals with a new cover.

> Inside on the bottom of the first page or on the

> inside cover it should have a date of publication.

Says copyright 1938 on superman, 1940 on batman

>

> Also in the Action book, what is the ad for in the

> inside cover?

25$ cash prize for color page contest on front cover, back cover inside

has

odd's N end's by Moldoff, baseball trivia. very back outside has adds

for

pocket radion midget radio, stinson reliant giant flying plane, blond

wigs

for 35cents, worlds smallest candid camara and more.... Says at bottom

to

address all orders for goods on this page to Johnson smith & co.

The inside back cover? How many pages

> are the books? 32 pages, which would make it 64 counting front and

back on

the superman and batman. The page numbers restart on every story inside

so I

had to thumb through and count like that.

>

> What year did you purchase the house?

I purchased the house three months ago.

 

How old were

> the people that you bought the house from?

In their 80's

 

no,

 

What magazines

> were in the box?

 

Needlecraft, The Home Arts Magazine-may 1935, Everyone needs a

church-1959,

Frontier Days Coloring Book-1955, Sunset Magazine-march 1939, June

1938,

September 1937, Pictorial Review-November 1929, Time-November 1960,

Flower

Grower-1959, Cappers Farmer-1933 and others, Plus newspapers from

1920's

and 30's.

and school books from 1918 and 1920. Geography etc.

 

Email 3

Somebody asked me earlier how many staples were in the binding, there

are

three, does that help?

 

Email 4

Know anyone that would want any of the other books and magazines? I

don't

collect anything and have no idea how to contact collectors for these

things

other than posting on ebay.

 

Email 5

Scanner is fried, but I can take some pics with my digital camara. The

more

I open the book, the more the binding is coming apart so do you just

want

the front and back, macro of the front cover inside? What would you

like?

 

Email 6

Here is a pic of the staples. The first one circled upper left didn't

show

up, but the others are obvious.

 

 

Email 7

Both have three staples.

 

I tried very hard to upload the scan but couldn't do

Please PM me and I will forward you the email.

The comic looks like sh*t and shows three staples.

 

Look at this from jparrino - CLEARLY two staples.

http://www.jp-themint.com/detail.cfm?key=1614

 

I'm saying that this is a fraud.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

[dam60]

New email:

 

Email

Like I said in my earlier email, the more I open it the cover is coming

more

apart. It isn't ready to fall off but I am not opening it again.

----- Original Message -----

> PS - is the comic in that bad shape that the cover

> looks to be clearly falling off?

>

> Thanks,

>

> DAM

 

[aardvark88]

From my personal experience, Detect 27 (1939) should only have 2 staples. Check Heritage site for other gold keys.

[greggy]

Why don't you just ask for the dimensions for the comic. Gives them less of an excuse not to open up the book and cause extra damage? The size if reported accurately, should give you a better idea!

[dam60]

Greggy, according to Overstreet, the reprint matched the dimensions exactly only had a separate cover basically stating that it was a reprint . . .

 

Thanks for the tip though,

 

DAM

[CosmicBob]

That's a different reprint. The Famous First Edition reprint, which was virtually exact, was a lot bigger. I have both the reprints and know they're bigger. Though I don't have the actual Action #1 and Batman #1, I've seen them and they are definately regular Golden Age size. The FFE reprints are a couple of inches bigger in the X-Y dimensions.

[dam60]

I mis-spoke! Thanks,

 

DAM

[Kevin76]

I see he has the old "sold as is" scam to cover his @$$.Sorry sir, I can't give you a refund on these reprints cause they are "sold as is".....people should know the difference on these books,at only 102.00 good thing it's not $102,000.

[Bugaboo-migration]

Ricky and someone else should use their "scambuster" eBay id's to increase the selling price on this thing to a huge amount. Then, eBay will charge him the seller fees and the winner can string him along for payment before eventually stiffing him. Then he'll have to go through the hassle of getting a refund of the fees later after he's allready had to pay them.

[hammer-migration]

I'm always mystified why "Mole" Rudd never goes after the sellers in these auctions with the same vehemence that he shows towards me. Selective blindness I suppose. His jealousy, Vendetta "thing" just won't let him see the forest for the trees. Interesting, being singled out by a compulsive / obssessive personality.

[fantastic_four]

I don't "single you out." We're frequenting the same cyberspace in these boards, that's the only reason we talk at all. I never talked about you until you started posting here. The only reason I asked all those dealers about you was because at one time I was seriously considering your Fantastic Four #1, which I told you about via e-mail once.

 

Auctions like the one in the topic of this thread are EBay's job to deal with...I'm sure it's a tough job for them, but they don't do enough about fraud yet.

[Rickdogg]

$15,000.00 bid in place!

[Bugaboo-migration]

hee hee ........I love it.

 

But we need to get someone else to bid like $14,000 against you. Then, when the auction closes......the dirtbag will have to pay the eBay final value fees while you make up a bunch of payment delay excuses. He'll eventually be able to get his eBay fees back.....but only after he's allready paid them and gone through all the hassle of the non-paying bidder .

[Rickdogg]

I'll snipe it with my other Scam hunter account:

 

"This_seller_should_be_arrested_for_being_so_stupid"

[dam60]

I'm too much of a wimp to go higher than 2K, but I'm in there at 2K . . . .: )

 

Rickdogg you DA MAN

 

DAM

[Bugaboo-migration]

.......Ricky is da man.

 

I just wish this wasn't a private auction so we could see those bidder names.

[ELBRUJO]

Email the seller and ask him what color the necktie is on the guy on the cover and see what he says, the original Action Comics #1 the guy has a Red tie and I know for sure the one that was printed by the post office several years ago is Green and this book that is up on ebay I would bet is the postal one.

[Rickdogg]

LMAO. The funny thing is that a powerseller emailed me and practically gave away Marvel Team-Ups to me becuase he dubbed me "the defender of the comic faith." Woohoo

[hogations]

It's most likely the treasury sized editions - I just checked mine and they have three staples.

[Bronty]

Just PM'd Arch asking for Ricky to get the Crimedogg title.