BB-Gun Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Do the Kubert Hawkman covers tend to sell for more than the Flash covers from this era? I know that if I were to start looking for copies of Flash Comics, the Kubert covers and Black Canary appearances would be what I'd focus on. Depends on how you define "this era." In the end of the run, some of the Hawkman covers are pretty great (lots of Kubert and some by other artists). But, across the entire run, I'd say the Sheldon Maldoff stuff is even more desirable (throwing out a few scarce issues in the end - driven more by rarity than Kubert). For instance, Flash Comics 33 (like this one -- Flash Comics 33 copy on ComicLink) is fantastic. Hawkman...but Shelly. I was thinking of the 1945- early 47 era when the covers mostly alternated between Kubet's Hawkman and Hibbard's Flash, but I agree some of the Moldoff covers are excellent. Later on with Infantino and even Kubert himself doing the Flash covers they improved IMHO. I'm not much of a Hibbard fan, and I really don't care for Nydell's Flash covers, so I've always been partial to the Hawkman covers, Kubert especially. Does anyone like Kinstler's Hawkman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I like Kinstler art from this era, but not as much as the work he was doing just a few years later. Kubert also improved dramatically as an artist from the mid forties into the fifties, but his work had a great dynamic energy from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 . . . Does anyone like Kinstler's Hawkman? He's contribution to the series was too little. More on him to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Issue #78 December 1946 Rating: 5 Paul Reinman (Green Lantern) fills in with the art in this Hawkman strip. The Hawkman is the mythical mediator between the competing tribes of fire and water. The Flash gets in the mood for Halloween and wears a mask as the three dimwits make the party fun. Great house ad for DC titles on the newsstands for October 1946. Count the kids that had Flash Comics #78 that Halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Issue #79Jan. 1947Rating: 5 This issue features the last appearances in the GA from thethree dimwits (they will continue to appear in All-Flash thru out 1947). Their next appearance in this series is as the SA back up story from FlashComics #117. Kozlak’s art is used again with the Hawkman strip "Revolt Of The Birds". Johnny Thunder and Ghost Patrol are average strips for this issue. Edited March 8, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 a great cover, and the insides look fantastic as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 worthy of a 5 tabcom rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 worthy of a 5 tabcom rating. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Issue #81 March 1947 Rating: 5 Robert Kanigher began his writing credits to Flash Comics with both the Flash and the Hawkman strips – later the Black Canary. The relationship between Joan and Jay acts as a marker for me. This relationship quirk is different than anything previously scene to the reader. The Hawkman strip also uses a background story page that is new to the style. This issue begins the transition from what I describe the Golden Age of Flash Comics to the Proto-Silverage. The stories, in this issue with the Hawkman, become less about solving crimes and more adventures into the sub-conscious. The gratuitous bad guys are still there as a link to the familiar. However, the glimpse into the next generation of comic book themes begins here. Peachy Pet and Johnny Thunder strip makes for an enjoyable filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Issue #81 March 1947 Rating: 5 Robert Kanigher began his writing credits to Flash Comics with both the Flash and the Hawkman strips – later the Black Canary. The relationship between Joan and Jay acts as a marker for me. This relationship quirk is different than anything previously scene to the reader. The Hawkman strip also uses a background story page that is new to the style. This issue begins the transition from what I describe the Golden Age of Flash Comics to the Proto-Silverage. The stories, in this issue with the Hawkman, become less about solving crimes and more adventures into the sub-conscious. The gratuitous bad guys are still there as a link to the familiar. However, the glimpse into the next generation of comic book themes begins here. Peachy Pet and Johnny Thunder strip makes for an enjoyable filler. I like the term Proto-Silverage. I'm fond of this era of DC and the later Timely issues as well, as they really were harbingers of what was to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Issue #82 April 1947 Rating: 5 Robert Kanigher uses the flashback technique with great success in the Flash story. Also is a reenactment of the famous issue #1 cover. The radio ad in the Ghost Patrol is worth posting here . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Issue #83May 1947Rating: 3 It has been a long while since a below average issueappeared. The stories and art are second rate for Flash Comics standards. Thebait on the cover metaphorically represents what you get inside. The bait, JoeKubert cover artist. However, when you turn to the Hawkman story, he did notdraw the strip. Edited April 18, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Issue #84 June 1947 Rating: 3 This makes two issues in a row for the dreaded '3' tabcom rating.The rating system works like this, I have a 5 point rating system. The Flash and Hawkman stories have a potential of +2 each, if good. Because the backup stories expectations are lower, they can achieve a +1 bonus to the issue if any of them are good enough. ‘The Changeling’ cover story -script, perhaps by Robert Kanigher, would have been good enough for a full 22 page blow out if it were the Silver Age. Confined to a GA 12-pager, it is too condensed to really blossom. This issues lineup is: Flash Ghost Patrol Rockhead McWizzard Johnny Thunder Hawkman – Art by Jon Chester Kozlak Fortunately, the series is not damaged by this misfire. More Kubert is to come. Plus a new character is introduced. Edited April 18, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Issue #85July 1947Rating: 4 E. E. Hibbard’s splash page evolves from the last issue. The new splash is less boxy and more blown-up with joined in progress action.This new style will carry the title to its final issue. Joe Kubert returns with the Hawkman cover and art. With the‘Lasso’ in the Hawkman and ‘The Impressario’ in the Flash, Robert Kanigher whowrote both stories continues to nurture his young storytelling career. Hisformula would be the norm for comic books for decades to come. Interesting to note that the Thunderbolt does not make anappearance at all in this issue and Peachy Pet would make her last. John B.Wentworth and Stan Aschmeier team up for the last time on the strip. Making wayfor the updated style of Robert Kanigher, Carmine Infantino and Joe Giella withthe next issue introduction of the Black Canary. The magic word cei-u will soonbe forever silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Now we're getting to ones I truly covet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 After 2 1/2 years . . . you can finally exhale . . . soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Issue #86August 1947Rating: 5 Robert Kanigher scripts start to take flight with the Flash,Hawkman, and the introduction of the Black Canary in the Johnny Thunder strip.The Flash cover and story "Stone Age Menace!" is drawn by Lee Eliasand inked by Kubert. The Black Canary’s dangerous beauty also brings to mind Lauren Becallfrom the Big Sleep, which was released several months earlier. Try as hard as he could, the Thunderbolt knows that hisbolts are soon to vanish forever. Carmine Infantino makes his Flash Comics debut with the penand pencils of The Ghost Patrol. His style of fluent action will become theindustry standard for a whole new generation of artist to come. Another excellent proto-SA villain in costume yarn. Edited May 8, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) In Flash Comics #19 the King meets for the only time the Scarlet Mermaid. This six pager must have been an influence on Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino when they first introduced the Black Canary in Flash Comics #86. Edited May 8, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabcom Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Issue #87Sept. 1947Rating: 5 Cover date stamp of July 9. The news of the day was very active. Everett Raymond Kinstler gets credit for the cover and artof the Hawkman in this issue. With the new style of Flash Comics, the Hawkmanand Flash stories flip their traditional order with the Hawkman in the lead-offposition. Carmine Infantino art is in the Johnny Thunder and GhostPatrol strips. The Atom appears. Limited to 5 pages, the pacing of most Atom stories are too abrupt to really take notice. Edited December 29, 2015 by tabcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacentaur Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just wanted to say I appreciate your Flash efforts... the title is on a downswing, but still a terrific GA run overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...