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Bigger SA Key: BB 28 or SC 22?

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Bigger SA key: BB 28 or SC 22?  

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  1. 1. Bigger SA key: BB 28 or SC 22?

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Sam I am

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If going long on the investment SC 3.0 If you want to ride a wave of potential movie speculation/news and gamble for more upside in the short term, BB28. If you just love comics, buy both.

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Columbia Comics

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Now it's a landslide for BB 28. The voters have spoken.

 

It shouldn't even be this close...BB 28 set the standard for super hero teams.

 

The Fantastic Four and Avengers are Marvel copies of the Justice League (and more or less, the Justice Society).

 

The JLA just resonates more in modern society they the JSA would....both are still cool as hell and set the standard by which teams are measured!

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But are there really people who like silver age DC super-hero books for artistic reasons?

 

I mean, come on now, they are terrible.

 

You've got Infantino and Kane and that's about it.

 

Hey well, Marvel had horrible artists too, like Don Heck, Ayers, and George Tuska. (shrug) Who'd they have besides Kirby and Ditko that were so awesome? (Wally Wood on DD doesn't count, too short a tenure).

 

DC had Kubert, Murphy Anderson and Neal Adams, Marvel had Gene Colan, John Romita and Bill Everett. Heck and Tuska weren't horrible, just not a good fit for superhero books, Tuska's crime stuff from the forties and fifties and Heck's pre-code output are quite good.

 

As for Ayers, well let's just say he was a decent inker.

 

But the comment was about SA super-heroes books, so for the specific question, "Heck and Tuska weren't horrible, just not a good fit for superhero books," = horrible. Bill Everett? What'd he do, a couple Sub-Mariner issues in the SA? He doesn't count. Not a big JRSR fan unless he's inking Gil Kane (like Swan, JRSR is decent, but too generic), but you reminded who I do like a lot: John Buscema.

 

...Ditko, Steranko, Adams, Severin, Everett (DD#1, Strange Tales, some TTA Subby Stories, Amazing Adventures, Captain America, Subby, etc)

 

Ditko: I did say "besides Kirby and Ditko". Plus, Ditko did work for DC in the late SA.

Steranko - ok, late SA.

Adams - lol. If he counts for Marvel, he definitely counts for DC first.

John Severin? He inked a few Hulk books, that does not make him a top superhero artist. (You couldn't have meant Marie, her art is awful, John's is awesome) Same with Everett (I can't believe he even gets a mention in the SA).

 

So, back to chrisware's crazy point, it's really pretty equal. Both sides can say that they had a Top 2 set of awesome artists, then a few good ones after that, and then a bunch of hacks. To try to say that Marvel was vastly superior artistically to DC in the SA is really ridiculous.

 

Except that Kirby is worth a dozen Infantinos or Kanes. And he produced 3 books a month, so the number of artists is hardly relevant.

 

Besides, my original point was that the DC books were terrible mostly due to the writing.

 

But let's compare.

 

Marvel:

 

FF, Thor, and Cap by Kirby.

 

First 8 issues of Avengers and first 11 issues of X-men (plus breakdowns on 12-16) by Kirby.

 

First 5 Hulks by Kirby (plus Ditko on the 6).

 

Spider-Man by Ditko and then Romita.

 

Ditko's Dr. Strange.

 

Buscema on the Avengers for a long run.

 

Daredevil by Colan. Also a 30 issue run on Iron Man.

 

Mix in various Steranko stuff and Adams' short X-Men run.

 

DC:

 

Flash--great art, insipid writing.

 

Green Lantern, Atom--ditto.

 

Superman/Action--competent art by Swan mixed with lesser artists and awful stories.

 

Some nice Adams covers. (The vast majority of his interior work is from the 70s.)

 

And then drek.

 

Sorry, Kirby is overrated. If you want to argue he is the most prolific artist of the SA then fine. Otherwise, some of his GA stuff looked better than his SA work. His BA stuff for DC was brutal.

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BarryAllen

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Ya go DC! Who cars about the FF, the only original thing bout them are the villains, cuz lets face it, Once u get past Starro, Proff Ivo, there ain't much villains to the JLA

 

 

 

Not sure how to read your statement.

 

Starro

Injustice League

Despero

Amazo

Anti-Monitor

Crime Syndicate of America

Darkseid

 

 

All great JL villains to name a few...

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Anti monitor and darkseid don't count, they are pretty much EVERY HEROES enemy

 

 

 

All the good villains end up fighting many heroes or teams. That is what happens when powerful/popular characters are around for 50+ years.

 

They are good examples of villains that fought the ENTIRE Justice League.

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