I'm pulling off the gloves! Please grade this Avengers #57 1st App The Vision!

[nik]

[Nefaria]

The edge cutters

[Silver Surfer]

Here it is raw:

 

 

 

 

Better cover gloss than mine but oh those spine creases scream at you and that color breaking scratch on the Visions wrist.

[divad]

Here it is raw:

 

 

 

 

Better cover gloss than mine but oh those spine creases scream at you and that color breaking scratch on the Visions wrist.

 

[Tango 'n Cash]

I still can't believe you got a 9.2 on that. There's a very light, color breaking crease through Vision's left wrist all the way down through Hawkeye's right bicep

 

Yeah, you can see that if you look real close. Was this book yours or did you have a chance to look at it live?

[Silver Surfer]

[FFB]

I still can't believe you got a 9.2 on that. There's a very light, color breaking crease through Vision's left wrist all the way down through Hawkeye's right bicep

 

Yeah, you can see that if you look real close. Was this book yours or did you have a chance to look at it live?

 

I had a chance to see it live before it was submitted. I would have missed the crease if I hadn't taken the book out of the bag and looked at it in a raking light.

[divad]

I still can't believe you got a 9.2 on that. There's a very light, color breaking crease through Vision's left wrist all the way down through Hawkeye's right bicep

 

Yeah, you can see that if you look real close. Was this book yours or did you have a chance to look at it live?

 

I had a chance to see it live before it was submitted. I would have missed the crease if I hadn't taken the book out of the bag and looked at it in a raking light.

 

Nobody "missed" a crease. The "defect" you guys are talking about is so incredibly small, that it doesn't merit any more of a deduction than has already been made for the book's grade at 9.2. I suggest that many of you do nothing more than categorically deduct for infintismally small defects, instead of looking at a book on its whole. Grade a book, send it in to get slabbed, see how your grade compares with CGC's, live and learn.

 

Oh, and btw, we SPIT on 9.2's

[FFB]

I still can't believe you got a 9.2 on that. There's a very light, color breaking crease through Vision's left wrist all the way down through Hawkeye's right bicep

 

Yeah, you can see that if you look real close. Was this book yours or did you have a chance to look at it live?

 

I had a chance to see it live before it was submitted. I would have missed the crease if I hadn't taken the book out of the bag and looked at it in a raking light.

 

Nobody "missed" a crease. The "defect" you guys are talking about is so incredibly small, that it doesn't merit any more of a deduction than has already been made for the book's grade at 9.2. I suggest that many of you do nothing more than categorically deduct for infintismally small defects, instead of looking at a book on its whole. Grade a book, send it in to get slabbed, see how your grade compares with CGC's, live and learn.

 

Oh, and btw, we SPIT on 9.2's

 

It's a matter of opinion, but I don't think any book with a four+ inch color-breaking crease should be able to grade out at 9.2 (especially a book with spine stress). Obviously CGC disagrees. That doesn't mean that I don't know how to grade properly or need a lecture on categorical deductions for infinitesimally small defects (I presume by this you meant the four+ inch color breaking crease?), it just means that CGC disagreed on that particular book.

[divad]

I still can't believe you got a 9.2 on that. There's a very light, color breaking crease through Vision's left wrist all the way down through Hawkeye's right bicep

 

Yeah, you can see that if you look real close. Was this book yours or did you have a chance to look at it live?

 

I had a chance to see it live before it was submitted. I would have missed the crease if I hadn't taken the book out of the bag and looked at it in a raking light.

 

Nobody "missed" a crease. The "defect" you guys are talking about is so incredibly small, that it doesn't merit any more of a deduction than has already been made for the book's grade at 9.2. I suggest that many of you do nothing more than categorically deduct for infintismally small defects, instead of looking at a book on its whole. Grade a book, send it in to get slabbed, see how your grade compares with CGC's, live and learn.

 

Oh, and btw, we SPIT on 9.2's

 

It's a matter of opinion, but I don't think any book with a four+ inch color-breaking crease should be able to grade out at 9.2 (especially a book with spine stress). Obviously CGC disagrees. That doesn't mean that I don't know how to grade properly or need a lecture on categorical deductions for infinitesimally small defects (I presume by this you meant the four+ inch color breaking crease?), it just means that CGC disagreed on that particular book.

 

I wasn't speaking to you directly, fine sir, . . . even though BOTH CGC AND I disagreed with your assessment - That would make it 4 to 1 And that's not even counting if Newt drooled on it . . .

[Tango 'n Cash]

If there is really a 4+ inch color-breaking crease on the book, then CGC obviously missed it.

[uclapeterg]

Make that 4 to *2* ...

[divad]

If there is really a 4+ inch color-breaking crease on the book, then CGC obviously missed it.

 

There isn't, and they didn't. That's what this means.

[divad]

Make that 4 to *2* ...

 

[Aces]

Sell it on eBay and wave the money under their noses!

[E.L.M.-migration]

Very nice.

 

BUT PUT THE GLOVES BACK ON THE OIL IN YOUR HANDS WILL RUIN IT.

[400yrs]

If there is really a 4+ inch color-breaking crease on the book, then CGC obviously missed it.

 

There isn't, and they didn't. That's what this means.

 

What is that then? Is it a light bend? A surface scratch or printing defect? I have books that have similar looking defects. I'd like to know why it wasn't taken off for past the 9.2 grade.

[Silver Surfer]

Just in case you guys missed it, DDB sold this over a week ago.

[Hobgoblin]

I sent in a more modern book which looked fairly similar in terms of the stress lines along the spine. Condition of the book overall was pretty much exact, just not as old of a book.

 

It came back 9.0.

[Silver Surfer]

I sent in a more modern book which looked fairly similar in terms of the stress lines along the spine. Condition of the book overall was pretty much exact, just not as old of a book.

 

It came back 9.0.

 

Since this book is now sold I can post my 9.2 to compare notes.