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What could one expect to pay for a page out of Superman 75 (Vol 2)

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Chillax23

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I am looking for an OA page out of Superman 75 (would maybe consider Issue 74 or Man of Steel 18) and was wondering what I could expect to pay for it?

 

Very new to OA collecting and the value/asking prices for pages seems to be all over the place - and as such, it is very hard to figure out whether a page from Superman 75 (vol 2) would be attainable.

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Those pages aren't available - haven't seen one in ten years of collecting, so I'd guess they're still with the artist or possibly DC. I'm sure someone here knows more than I do.

 

There are definitely pages floating around from the rest of the Death of Superman story and they're in high demand.

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Chillax23

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That was my fear - since I haven't seen them available either - dang!

 

I have seen a couple of pages from Superman 74 floating around - for around $300 - $400, but no idea if that is too much to pay.

 

If anyone knows where any (pages from Death of Superman story arc) are for sale and wants to point me int aht direction that would be great (ideally looking for a page with Superman on it - I guess everyone would be :) ).

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The pages from #75 were sold as a whole issue right after they were published. At the time, the art went for a relatively large sum of money. Whoever purchased them seems to have kept them intact.

 

Pages from the surrounding issues made their way into Warner Brothers Studio stores. Again, high priced at the time, but they did make it into the hands of the general public - just some of them may not be active comic art collectors which also makes them a little harder to find.

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I can't help you with pricing the particular issues of interest, but I can give you some help in how to gather pricing information.

 

Hope it helps.

 

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You might want to explore the following resources:

  • The OA auction archive at Heritage Auctions - This archive presents the results from all of their OA auctions.. Once you sign-up and get an id, you can search for pieces by your artist and see what they have sold for.
  • The CAF Market Data - More auction results (more than 1,000,000) are available if you join the Comic Art Fans site, pay for Market Data access, and access eBay and other auction sites as well as Heritage.
  • The Comic Art Database. It contains transaction records entered by the owners of Comic OA.
  • Dealer sites. Dealers, generally, post their art with fixed prices though there are exceptions. There is a list of dealers on CGC OA board and the Dragonberry site has a list as well. The CAF site will search the inventories of several dealers for you.
  • Blouin Art Info which tracks sales at major art auctions. It can turn up some Comic OA as well. Look for the “Art Prices” item on the top right of the screen
  • Jerry Weist's Comic Art Price Guide - Heritage published a third edition of it. In my opinion, it's a good history book and might be useful for comparison work, but it was out of date a year before it was printed.
  • A topic on these CGC OA boards, A-level panel page valuations by artist/run - thoughts/additions/changes?, holds a discussion that relates to your question. It provides some "generally agreed upon" ranges for popular runs by popular artists on popular characters.
  • The Biggest OA Prices thread tracked some of the largest sales in the OA space. While that particular thread has stopped; it's probably worth reading for the discussions. Meanwhile , the information is still being updated - just with a different mechanism.

New buyers and sellers often find that OA is too hard to price. I agree. However, I think that there is a valid reason. Each piece is unique. Uniqueness make art sales generally and OA specifically non-linear.

 

For example,

  • Consecutive pages could and do sell for radically different amounts.
  • Take page layout - In general, you might say:
    Covers > 1st Page Splash > Other Splash > 1/2 splash > panel pages
    However, that's not always true either. The right panel page can be much more compelling than a bland splash.
  • Take pencillers- There are "A-list" artists, but not all of their books/characters have the same value. Kirby FF pages generally go for more than JIM/Thor pages which go for more than Cap pages (2nd run) which go for more than ...
  • Take combinations of pencilers/inkers - Kirby/Sinnott FF pages rank above Kirby and anyone else on FF, but a Kirby/X FF page might be more or less than a Kirby/Stone Thor page. Hard to tell.

 

Finally, you should join the comic book OA community. The three main points of Internet contact are:

 

The main points of physical contact are probably:

 

One last comment, if you are looking to buy or sell, spend the time to learn the market. That might take 6 months, but it's worth the time.

 

 

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That was my fear - since I haven't seen them available either - dang!

 

I have seen a couple of pages from Superman 74 floating around - for around $300 - $400, but no idea if that is too much to pay.

 

 

If you could get Superman 74 pages with Doomsday for 300-400, it would be an unbelievable deal.

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That was my fear - since I haven't seen them available either - dang!

 

I have seen a couple of pages from Superman 74 floating around - for around $300 - $400, but no idea if that is too much to pay.

 

 

If you could get Superman 74 pages with Doomsday for 300-400, it would be an unbelievable deal.

:o

 

I agree it would be a good deal - but these are non Doomsday pages and non-Superman pages :(

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I can't help you with pricing the particular issues of interest, but I can give you some help in how to gather pricing information.

 

Hope it helps.

 

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You might want to explore the following resources:

  • The OA auction archive at Heritage Auctions - This archive presents the results from all of their OA auctions.. Once you sign-up and get an id, you can search for pieces by your artist and see what they have sold for.
  • The CAF Market Data - More auction results (more than 1,000,000) are available if you join the Comic Art Fans site, pay for Market Data access, and access eBay and other auction sites as well as Heritage.
  • The Comic Art Database. It contains transaction records entered by the owners of Comic OA.
  • Dealer sites. Dealers, generally, post their art with fixed prices though there are exceptions. There is a list of dealers on CGC OA board and the Dragonberry site has a list as well. The CAF site will search the inventories of several dealers for you.
  • Blouin Art Info which tracks sales at major art auctions. It can turn up some Comic OA as well. Look for the “Art Prices” item on the top right of the screen
  • Jerry Weist's Comic Art Price Guide - Heritage published a third edition of it. In my opinion, it's a good history book and might be useful for comparison work, but it was out of date a year before it was printed.
  • A topic on these CGC OA boards, A-level panel page valuations by artist/run - thoughts/additions/changes?, holds a discussion that relates to your question. It provides some "generally agreed upon" ranges for popular runs by popular artists on popular characters.
  • The Biggest OA Prices thread tracked some of the largest sales in the OA space. While that particular thread has stopped; it's probably worth reading for the discussions. Meanwhile , the information is still being updated - just with a different mechanism.

New buyers and sellers often find that OA is too hard to price. I agree. However, I think that there is a valid reason. Each piece is unique. Uniqueness make art sales generally and OA specifically non-linear.

 

For example,

  • Consecutive pages could and do sell for radically different amounts.
  • Take page layout - In general, you might say:
    Covers > 1st Page Splash > Other Splash > 1/2 splash > panel pages
    However, that's not always true either. The right panel page can be much more compelling than a bland splash.
  • Take pencillers- There are "A-list" artists, but not all of their books/characters have the same value. Kirby FF pages generally go for more than JIM/Thor pages which go for more than Cap pages (2nd run) which go for more than ...
  • Take combinations of pencilers/inkers - Kirby/Sinnott FF pages rank above Kirby and anyone else on FF, but a Kirby/X FF page might be more or less than a Kirby/Stone Thor page. Hard to tell.

 

Finally, you should join the comic book OA community. The three main points of Internet contact are:

 

The main points of physical contact are probably:

 

One last comment, if you are looking to buy or sell, spend the time to learn the market. That might take 6 months, but it's worth the time.

 

 

Thanks for the info - I really appreciate it!

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It was sold as a full issue years ago for between 30-50k if memory serves me correct. Maybe 12 years ago I saw a page on eBay for 5k.

 

Now? No page from superman 74 will sell for 300-400 unless there's no superman or doomsday on it. If there is I'd say add a zero.

 

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Check out this guys stuff on Comicartfans.com site

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryroom.asp?gsub=157489

 

At least you can always reach out to him and see if he's interested in selling although I'm sure its doubtful

 

Here's the link to the whole "Doomsday" section. Maybe someone has

something they'll let go?

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/searchresult.asp?PM=2&txtSearch=doomsday&Order=&PI=18

 

Let us know how you make out, I'm a huge Death of Superman fan

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This series made an impression, of course. Was one of the last "big reads" during my main reading/collecting days. About 10-12 years ago I was able to acquire the cover to Superman 76 and have never regretted it. A piece of history! So, I can see the appeal and why this run is really starting to heat up, now 20 years later.

 

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This series made an impression, of course. Was one of the last "big reads" during my main reading/collecting days. About 10-12 years ago I was able to acquire the cover to Superman 76 and have never regretted it. A piece of history! So, I can see the appeal and why this run is really starting to heat up, now 20 years later.

 

I think it's a amazing that someone, somewhere actually owns these things..

 

Feel free to post a pic of that cover

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This series made an impression, of course. Was one of the last "big reads" during my main reading/collecting days. About 10-12 years ago I was able to acquire the cover to Superman 76 and have never regretted it. A piece of history! So, I can see the appeal and why this run is really starting to heat up, now 20 years later.

 

I agree post a pic of that cover :) (Please)

 

So I have located a few DOS pages with Doomsday on them and they are out of my budget - talking roughly $3-5K. I have also located a couple of DOS pages that don't include Superman or Doomsday on them, but not sure what they are worth - would $400 be too much?

 

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Sad to say but I don't feel $3-5k is a lot depending on the content of the page

Don't get me wrong that's outta my budget too but you gotta go into it thinking they're that amount or much much or more

 

As far as the $400 pages, it's all about subject matter

 

If it was me, I'd save up for the right, somewhat affordable piece

 

It'll be worth it and you'll make us all jealous

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I don't disagree that 3-5K is nto crazy for some of the key pages - just sadly out of my budget :(

 

Still considering the pages not featuring Superman/Doomsday - it would be cool to own a page from the DOS arc.

 

True..let us know how you make out

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This series made an impression, of course. Was one of the last "big reads" during my main reading/collecting days. About 10-12 years ago I was able to acquire the cover to Superman 76 and have never regretted it. A piece of history! So, I can see the appeal and why this run is really starting to heat up, now 20 years later.

 

Funny, I remember many many moons ago you posted that on the comicart-l. Ive always wondered if it still resided in your collection.

 

I myself have one of the original Doomsday covers. (Justice League America 69) The hoops I had to jump through to get it is still the largest goose chase ive ever gone on for a piece of art.

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