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SIX GRADED BOOKS RETURNED TODAY

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From 8.0 and below on Silver Age, they are too loose.

 

Maybe they were in the past, but I haven't noticed it. All my low grade Silver Age books graded lower than what I thought they would be.

 

Either that's a misconception or they are improving.

 

There is a third possibility. 893scratchchin-thumb.gifpoke2.gif

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From 8.0 and below on Silver Age, they are too loose.

 

Maybe they were in the past, but I haven't noticed it. All my low grade Silver Age books graded lower than what I thought they would be.

 

Either that's a misconception or they are improving.

 

There is a third possibility. 893scratchchin-thumb.gifpoke2.gif

 

That they are low grade books? insane.gif27_laughing.gif

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From 8.0 and below on Silver Age, they are too loose.

 

Maybe they were in the past, but I haven't noticed it. All my low grade Silver Age books graded lower than what I thought they would be.

 

Either that's a misconception or they are improving.

 

There is a third possibility. 893scratchchin-thumb.gifpoke2.gif

 

That they are low grade books? insane.gif27_laughing.gif

 

That is one of the premises of the third possibility. yay.gif

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I sent in low grade books to be slabbed and I'm proud of it! Obviously it was something I wanted to do if I went through with it, right? (Sometimes I really wish there was an emoticon on here of a smiley face flipping the bird).

 

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I sent in low grade books to be slabbed and I'm proud of it! Obviously it was something I wanted to do if I went through with it, right? (Sometimes I really wish there was an emoticon on here of a smiley face flipping the bird).

 

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I'll say it again.

 

1) I think they could have possibly been a little tough on my two modern books, because they are great looking books that could possibly warrant above a general NM.

 

2) They definitely were not loose on grading the low grade silver age books. I think they were pretty close. The grades I gave my books were generally only 0.5 above what I received from PGX. So how is that being too loose?

 

Someone, when I posted the Batman 189 separately, said that PGX probably gave it a 7.5 because they go so lightly on older books. Wasn't anywhere near that, and EVEN IF the centerfold was attached, I'm convinced it would have received no higher than a 6.0 or 6.5 max. So they were not loose at all on the gradings. For my experience with them, they did a great job. And it took a fraction of the time it would've taken with CGC.

 

I'm happy and I will probably continue to use them for lower grade books. I haven't decided yet but I may try my luck with the two "9.4s" with CGC, just to see if there's any difference. But I ask you this ... What is so wrong with grading high grade books tough? As collector's, we don't want a ton of 9.8 books running around do we? I think CGC is pretty leanient when it comes to that. And the fact that dealers send in crates of books for pregrading and have tons of 9.8's graded. I think CGC should be more strict on modern high grades as well.

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I'll say it again.

 

1) I think they could have possibly been a little tough on my two modern books, because they are great looking books that could possibly warrant above a general NM.

 

KH - With all due respect, the more you say the more I'm convinced you don't know what you are talking about. 893whatthe.gif WTF is a "general NM"? A NM is a verrrrrrrrrrrry nice book! sumo.gif

 

2) They definitely were not loose on grading the low grade silver age books. I think they were pretty close. The grades I gave my books were generally only 0.5 above what I received from PGX. So how is that being too loose?

 

This assumes that you know how to grade. makepoint.gif

 

Someone, when I posted the Batman 189 separately, said that PGX probably gave it a 7.5 because they go so lightly on older books. Wasn't anywhere near that, and EVEN IF the centerfold was attached, I'm convinced it would have received no higher than a 6.0 or 6.5 max. So they were not loose at all on the gradings. For my experience with them, they did a great job. And it took a fraction of the time it would've taken with CGC.

 

The centerfold was not only detached, but affected 3 pages makepoint.gif but I'm happy that you're happy.

 

I'm happy and I will probably continue to use them for lower grade books. I haven't decided yet but I may try my luck with the two "9.4s" with CGC, just to see if there's any difference. But I ask you this ... What is so wrong with grading high grade books tough? As collector's, we don't want a ton of 9.8 books running around do we? I think CGC is pretty leanient when it comes to that. And the fact that dealers send in crates of books for pregrading and have tons of 9.8's graded. I think CGC should be more strict on modern high grades as well.

 

screwy.gif CGC IS tough - just send your own books in and find out just how tough. Anyone who sends in a low grade book with a torn centerfold either is muy loco, or didn't take the time to actually look at the book critically, page by page - something we all are too often guilty of. 893crossfingers-thumb.gif

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[quoteAnyone who sends in a low grade book with a torn centerfold either is muy loco, or didn't take the time to actually look at the book critically, page by page - something we all are too often guilty of. 893crossfingers-thumb.gif

 

You are correct divad. After receiving that Batman 189 as an X-Mas gift in 1992, I've never opened up the book to check on the pages. I had no idea that I had unattached pages. WHOOPS! I just wanted to slab it cause it's possibly my favorite book in my collection. But GUILTY AS CHARGED. grin.gif

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Nice Avengers 57....you ever want to get rid of it shoot me a PM. I love books in 6.0-8.0 condition (even though a lot of mid-grade haters around here don't mad.gifgossip.gif)

 

Who bashes mid-grades around here? I hear people say that a lot, but I don't see it. If anything, there are people with date stamp pet peeves and writing pet peeves and Marvel chipping pet peeves, but I don't think I've seen anyone bash mid-grade books.

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Nice Avengers 57....you ever want to get rid of it shoot me a PM. I love books in 6.0-8.0 condition (even though a lot of mid-grade haters around here don't mad.gifgossip.gif)

 

Who bashes mid-grades around here? I hear people say that a lot, but I don't see it. If anything, there are people with date stamp pet peeves and writing pet peeves and Marvel chipping pet peeves, but I don't think I've seen anyone bash mid-grade books.

 

You could be right, I may just be misinterpreting people's insistance on HG for their own collections as disdain towards mid-grades in general. confused-smiley-013.gif Maybe it's nothing specific, just a general tone that anything that's not HG isn't worth looking at.

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or maybe I am just jealous that people can afford NM+ copies when I can only go for F/VF. gossip.gif

 

There are very few collectors who can afford all of their books in NM. I make a very good living, but I still don't feel like I could justify, on any level, spending enough on my comic collection to own everything I want in NM. Spending time on these boards will at first make you want to spend every spare dollar you have to acquire uber-high-grade copies of everything you're looking for. I definitely went through that phase myself. But since that time, I have come to realize that I am a lot happier with a presentable, multi-hundred dollar copy of an early ASM or FF in 7.0 to 9.0 than I am with a multi-thousand dollar NM copy in a slab, only to find that the interior of the effing slab beat the sh*it out of the overhang on the book. Christo_pull_hair.gif

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or maybe I am just jealous that people can afford NM+ copies when I can only go for F/VF. gossip.gif

 

There are very few collectors who can afford all of their books in NM. I make a very good living, but I still don't feel like I could justify, on any level, spending enough on my comic collection to own everything I want in NM. Spending time on these boards will at first make you want to spend every spare dollar you have to acquire uber-high-grade copies of everything you're looking for. I definitely went through that phase myself. But since that time, I have come to realize that I am a lot happier with a presentable, multi-hundred dollar copy of an early ASM or FF in 7.0 to 9.0 than I am with a multi-thousand dollar NM copy in a slab, only to find that the interior of the effing slab beat the sh*it out of the overhang on the book. Christo_pull_hair.gif

 

I didn't want to give the impression that I want every book in NM, that (to me) is insane if you are looking for anything more than a small collection. I wouldn't buy NM copies of everything even if I had the disposable income to do so. No, I am perfectly happy with my 6.0 - 8.0 books 99% of the time. However, there are several that I would love to have in NM (Sinister House 1; Batman 227; X-Men 56 to name a few) that are out of my price range right now. Seeing the HG posting parades that go on around here is both awe inspiring and frustrating. However, I can honestly say that nothing in this hobby has added more to my love for comics, and increased my wantlist, more than these boards. thumbsup2.gif.

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Nice Avengers 57....you ever want to get rid of it shoot me a PM. I love books in 6.0-8.0 condition (even though a lot of mid-grade haters around here don't mad.gifgossip.gif)

 

I'm with you. The only silvers I'll ever be able to afford are probably 6.0-8.0, so I'm a big fan of them as well. thumbsup2.gif

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Nice books Khurst 34, say it with me now, "low grade is good". So is any grade as long as you read them before slabbing.

 

I just wanted to add a few comments on PG"X" Grading, just because it's on this topic thread. I send in a group of books just prior to PG"A" becoming PG"X" and here are the results FYI (my grade first, then PG"X"). I consider myself to be a very tight grader and I was surprised at how tight they were. I'd buy one of their graded books any day, and expect a beauty. Selling on the other hand won't be for quite a while until the market pays a premium. Until then, they are all safe at home. On a similar note, I've always been generally pleased with any CGC book that I've purchased also. I have yet to send books to CGC due to the long distance from Alaska, but I'm planning on sending in a few beauties in the near future.

 

ASM 34 (VF/NM VF+)

 

TOS 36 (VF/NM VF)

 

TOS 11 (VF- F+)

 

X-Men 95 (NM- VF/NM)

 

Defenders 1 (NM- VF+)

 

ASM 90 (NM+ NM+)

 

ASM GS 4 (VF/NM VF/NM)

 

Hulk 162 (VF/NM VF/NM)

 

ASM 44 (VF- VF+)

 

M. Premier 15 (VF VF)

 

MTUP 2 (NM- VF/NM)

 

MTUP 3 (NM- VF+)

 

Mys. Tales 2 (F/VF F+)

 

TOS 10 (VF+ VF+)

 

MSpotlight 2 (VF+ VF)

 

Fear 20 (NM NM)

 

Iron Fist 14 (VF+ VF/NM)

 

TOS 13 (VF VF)

 

ASM 52 (VF/NM VF+)

 

M Spotlight 5 (NM- VF+)

 

T O Dracula 1 (VF VF-)

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