Mr 9.8 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 HBO Eyeing ‘Watchmen’ TV Series from Zack Snyder http://collider.com/watchmen-tv-series-hbo-zack-snyder/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Those Before Watchmen books were beyond terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Those Before Watchmen books were beyond terrible. Yes they were but Snyder would be doing this. Could work with him as long as they focus on The Comedian and Rorschach. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He11blazer Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't see how this could work. The only thing that would work is to re-adapt Watchmen and do it faithfully, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to do that at this point. The film, while deeply flawed, trod the plot pretty closely already. Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). If he wants to make a series then he should find a different property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I enjoyed the film a great deal. I think the ponderous material was more exciting for the comics readers, unaccustomed to cerebral storytelling, than it was for the typical movie going superhero movie consumer looking for splosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Those Before Watchmen books were beyond terrible. That's too bad. This is the first review I've heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGGIEZ Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I enjoyed the film a great deal. I think the ponderous material was more exciting for the comics readers, unaccustomed to cerebral storytelling, than it was for the typical movie going superhero movie consumer looking for splosions. Agreed. By far the best story I've read in any funny book...there's a reason that it shows up on the All-Time Top 100 books/novels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby77 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't see how this could work. The only thing that would work is to re-adapt Watchmen and do it faithfully, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to do that at this point. The film, while deeply flawed, trod the plot pretty closely already. Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). If he wants to make a series then he should find a different property. Wow...really? I thought the film was about as good and faithful adaptation as could be crammed into two hours. It actually surprised me with how good it was, and I will defend Snyder's choice not to use the squid to the death. If anything, I thought the flaw with the film (as with V for Vendetta) is just niche appeal that definitionally limits its box office -- neither Watchmen nor V were meant to appeal to broad audiences -- they're far too violent / abrasive / subversive for the mainstream popcorn movie goer who prefers the likes of Avengers or the Nolan Batman adventure flicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). Why, just because Alan Moore is an elitist prig? Who cares WHAT he thinks--it's DC's property and his opinion no longer matters. I get where he's coming from, but he doesn't give a tenth of a mess about any relationship any of his fans have created with these characters at this point. Plenty of others do. I respect Moore's ability, but not his arrogance. Yes, you can't translate all of the innovations to the comic medium he made in "Watchmen" to other media, and yes, any attempt to do so will be inferior to "Watchmen" because the odds that a Snyder or anyone else would similarly try to innovate the translated medium anywhere close to the extent to which he did is nil to zero. Who cares? Mostly Alan Moore and not many others. Do we really miss and return to re-experience his innovations to panel-based art that much? No--the vast majority of us re-experience Watchmen because of the story and the characters. You can still tell good stories with these characters, and while it won't be Alan Moore's Watchmen, it's still possible to do them well. He's not the only writer capable of penning an anti-superhero story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't see how this could work. The only thing that would work is to re-adapt Watchmen and do it faithfully, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to do that at this point. The film, while deeply flawed, trod the plot pretty closely already. Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). If he wants to make a series then he should find a different property. This 100000000000000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Those Before Watchmen books were beyond terrible. That's too bad. This is the first review I've heard of them. It's all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). Why, just because Alan Moore is an elitist prig? Who cares WHAT he thinks--it's DC's property and his opinion no longer matters. I get where he's coming from, but he doesn't give a tenth of a mess about any relationship any of his fans have created with these characters at this point. Plenty of others do. I respect Moore's ability, but not his arrogance. Yes, you can't translate all of the innovations to the comic medium he made in "Watchmen" to other media, and yes, any attempt to do so will be inferior to "Watchmen" because the odds that a Snyder or anyone else would similarly try to innovate the translated medium anywhere close to the extent to which he did is nil to zero. Who cares? Mostly Alan Moore and not many others. Do we really miss and return to re-experience his innovations to panel-based art that much? No--the vast majority of us re-experience Watchmen because of the story and the characters. You can still tell good stories with these characters, and while it won't be Alan Moore's Watchmen, it's still possible to do them well. He's not the only writer capable of penning an anti-superhero story. Because it's a self-contained story - it doesn't need any back-story or expansion. And DC proved with the Before Watchmen books that they have no idea what to do with these characters beyond turning them into cash cow ting turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't see how this could work. The only thing that would work is to re-adapt Watchmen and do it faithfully, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to do that at this point. The film, while deeply flawed, trod the plot pretty closely already. Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). If he wants to make a series then he should find a different property. Wow...really? I thought the film was about as good and faithful adaptation as could be crammed into two hours. It actually surprised me with how good it was, and I will defend Snyder's choice not to use the squid to the death. If anything, I thought the flaw with the film (as with V for Vendetta) is just niche appeal that definitionally limits its box office -- neither Watchmen nor V were meant to appeal to broad audiences -- they're far too violent / abrasive / subversive for the mainstream popcorn movie goer who prefers the likes of Avengers or the Nolan Batman adventure flicks. The Hallelujah scene is one of the most embarrassing things put on to a cinema screen since Birth of a Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 One of a few great performances from that movie. Especially if you watch the Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandGothic Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The Director's Cut. Hope you are feeling better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandGothic Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The Director's Cut. Hope you are feeling better. Not as red as yesterday, I guess it's slowly moving out of my system. Not so itchy now. Made a quick run and bought Avengers 2 and a couple Frozen Christmas ornaments. No one noticed my face was pink or they didn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He11blazer Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). Why, just because Alan Moore is an elitist prig? Who cares WHAT he thinks--it's DC's property and his opinion no longer matters. I get where he's coming from, but he doesn't give a tenth of a mess about any relationship any of his fans have created with these characters at this point. Plenty of others do. I respect Moore's ability, but not his arrogance. Yes, you can't translate all of the innovations to the comic medium he made in "Watchmen" to other media, and yes, any attempt to do so will be inferior to "Watchmen" because the odds that a Snyder or anyone else would similarly try to innovate the translated medium anywhere close to the extent to which he did is nil to zero. Who cares? Mostly Alan Moore and not many others. Do we really miss and return to re-experience his innovations to panel-based art that much? No--the vast majority of us re-experience Watchmen because of the story and the characters. You can still tell good stories with these characters, and while it won't be Alan Moore's Watchmen, it's still possible to do them well. He's not the only writer capable of penning an anti-superhero story. Nothing to do with Alan Moore. Watchmen is a complete work with no loose ends. You can't spin off the characters because they aren't 'superheroes' that can go off on further adventures. Their arcs are complete. You wouldn't spin off Hamlet would you? (Oh wait... I did like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr 9.8 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Any kind of spin-off would be.. blasphemous (and I know that sounds like fanboy whining, because it kinda is). Why, just because Alan Moore is an elitist prig? Who cares WHAT he thinks--it's DC's property and his opinion no longer matters. I get where he's coming from, but he doesn't give a tenth of a mess about any relationship any of his fans have created with these characters at this point. Plenty of others do. I respect Moore's ability, but not his arrogance. Yes, you can't translate all of the innovations to the comic medium he made in "Watchmen" to other media, and yes, any attempt to do so will be inferior to "Watchmen" because the odds that a Snyder or anyone else would similarly try to innovate the translated medium anywhere close to the extent to which he did is nil to zero. Who cares? Mostly Alan Moore and not many others. Do we really miss and return to re-experience his innovations to panel-based art that much? No--the vast majority of us re-experience Watchmen because of the story and the characters. You can still tell good stories with these characters, and while it won't be Alan Moore's Watchmen, it's still possible to do them well. He's not the only writer capable of penning an anti-superhero story. Nothing to do with Alan Moore. Watchmen is a complete work with no loose ends. You can't spin off the characters because they aren't 'superheroes' that can go off on further adventures. Their arcs are complete. You wouldn't spin off Hamlet would you? (Oh wait... I did like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead...) Clearly you haven't seen Hamlet 2. AGGIEZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krighton Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Put Watchmen on Cinemax and shift over Outcast to HBO...problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...