Please grade my Adventure Comics #237

[FFB]

Hello everyone,

 

Please grade my Adventure #237 from 1957. First Legion "tryout" issue featuring the Intergalactic Vigilante Squadron. Supposedly as tough to find in FN or better as Brave & the Bold #25 or Action #242, and VERY tough to find in any grade without faded colors!

 

My scanner tends to be a bit heavy on the yellow, so I had to reduce the yellow using Photoshop to get the scan to look like the comic in hand. The red looks dead on, but the blue at the top of the book is a little darker than in hand. Gloss is gorgeous, colors are bright and unfaded, pages are OW-W at worse, and maybe even straight White. The mark on the LLC BC is a very light bend, not a full crease. The spine wear is just a few stresses, plus some ink flaking and a small scrape on the apex of the spine at the center of the book.

 

Also, there is no spine roll. The reason the top edge of the back cover is visible from the front is because it was not cut perfectly squarely.

 

 

[uclapeterg]

Scott, what is the left of "June" at the top near the middle? Is that a stain?

[FFB]

Scott, what is the left of "June" at the top near the middle? Is that a stain?

 

Good eye, Pete. That is a very light tideline from a water stain. Almost invisible in hand, but it shows up nicely in the scan.

[Aces]

6.0

 

edited after reading about the water stain.

[uclapeterg]

Scott, what is the left of "June" at the top near the middle? Is that a stain?

 

Good eye, Pete. That is a very light tideline from a water stain. Almost invisible in hand, but it shows up nicely in the scan.

 

prob 7.0 maybe 7.5. I don't think I would deduct too much for the stain (maybe .5/1.0?). It's very light. The consistent light spine wear is the only thing I see. The book has beautiful colors and a nice white back cover.

 

If you say it's a difficult copy to get above a FN, then you hit the jackpot.

[uclapeterg]

6.0

 

edited after reading about the water stain.

 

Hater. Without the stain, I'd give this book a 7.5/8.0. Why so initially low?

[divad]

sls,

 

Nize looking book, and the tiny water stain doesn't detract much. But the 1.5" crease to the LLBC does, and I can't see it going higher than 6.0 - 6.5. Not knowing my Supes, is this a valuable book?

 

tbk

[rjpb]

I agree - 7.5 - 8.0 without the stain - is my perception wrong that CGC punishes water stains, even light ones, more harshly than tanning and foxing? Well, regardless of what CGC says, I wouldn't knock any more than a point off for that particular stain - so 6.5 - 7.0. Nice book!

[uclapeterg]

sls,

 

Nize looking book, and the tiny water stain doesn't detract much. But the 1.5" crease to the LLBC does, and I can't see it going higher than 6.0 - 6.5. Not knowing my Supes, is this a valuable book?

 

tbk

 

Diva, It's as much a crease as the book you put up recently. FFB said it was a bend.

[143ksk]

FN+

[KingOfRulers]

I'd say a 7.0.

[rjpb]

FN+

 

 

FN+ - what kind of geezer grade is that? How will the kids know what your talking about? Only numbers allowed

[divad]

FN+

 

 

FN+ - what kind of geezer grade is that? How will the kids know what your talking about? Only numbers allowed

 

[uclapeterg]

FN+

 

 

FN+ - what kind of geezer grade is that? How will the kids know what your talking about? Only numbers allowed

 

Hey, don't try to pick on my Archie buddy.

[divad]

sls,

 

Nize looking book, and the tiny water stain doesn't detract much. But the 1.5" crease to the LLBC does, and I can't see it going higher than 6.0 - 6.5. Not knowing my Supes, is this a valuable book?

 

tbk

 

Diva, It's as much a crease as the book you put up recently. FFB said it was a bend.

 

You're friggin' high

[Silver Surfer]

I agree - 7.5 - 8.0 without the stain - is my perception wrong that CGC punishes water stains, even light ones, more harshly than tanning and foxing? Well, regardless of what CGC says, I wouldn't knock any more than a point off for that particular stain - so 6.5 - 7.0. Nice book!

 

I don't see it being an 8.0 with the damage to the bottom LHC? Stains seem to nail a grade pretty good so I would go with a 6.5.

[FFB]

Scott, what is the left of "June" at the top near the middle? Is that a stain?

 

Good eye, Pete. That is a very light tideline from a water stain. Almost invisible in hand, but it shows up nicely in the scan.

 

prob 7.0 maybe 7.5. I don't think I would deduct too much for the stain (maybe .5/1.0?). It's very light. The consistent light spine wear is the only thing I see. The book has beautiful colors and a nice white back cover.

 

If you say it's a difficult copy to get above a FN, then you hit the jackpot.

 

I agree with you, Pete. I have this book as a 7.0/7.5. The richness of the inks and the incredible gloss and page quality (near impossible on books from this era) may give it the bump to 7.5. Bought from a major dealer as an "8.0" sight unseen. It wasn't an 8.0 in my mind, but at the price I paid (about $200), I was happy to find one in this shape. Check the census to see how rare this minor key is. And try to find a copy in any grade without faded colors. TOUGH book.

[143ksk]

FN+

 

 

FN+ - what kind of geezer grade is that? How will the kids know what your talking about? Only numbers allowed

 

Hey, don't try to pick on my Archie buddy.

 

[FFB]

sls,

 

Nize looking book, and the tiny water stain doesn't detract much. But the 1.5" crease to the LLBC does, and I can't see it going higher than 6.0 - 6.5. Not knowing my Supes, is this a valuable book?

 

tbk

 

It's not really a hard crease, it's more a light bend that looks far worse in the scan. Incidentally, I have a CGC 7.5 FF#52 with a larger, more pronounced crease on the back cover and a virtually identical front cover (albeit without the very light tidelines on the top edge). I can't see any way that this book will grade out at 6.0/6.5. I'll show you the book tomorrow and maybe you'll agree when you see it in hand.

 

This is a valuable book because of the Legion "tryout" factor, and also because of the rarity factor. DCs in relatively high grade with outstanding colors, gloss, and page quality from this era are really tough to find.

[FFB]

I agree - 7.5 - 8.0 without the stain - is my perception wrong that CGC punishes water stains, even light ones, more harshly than tanning and foxing? Well, regardless of what CGC says, I wouldn't knock any more than a point off for that particular stain - so 6.5 - 7.0. Nice book!

 

I don't see it being an 8.0 with the damage to the bottom LHC? Stains seem to nail a grade pretty good so I would go with a 6.5.

 

The damage to the LLC is just an abraded corner. It's obviously a factor in the grade, but not enough to push it down to 6.5 in my opinion.

 

Just for the sake of comparison, here is an FF#13 CGC 6.5 that I submitted personally. (Sold recently to my pal Drummy .) Although the FF#13 is a nice book in its own right, the Adv. #237 is significantly brighter, fresher, and glossier, has a similar amount of spine wear, but isn't missing any chips (see URC of the FF#13 and the top and right edge tears). The FF#13 has a (smaller) crease in the ULC of the back cover and an abraded lower spine corner similar to the Adv. 237.