Joosh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 A perhaps strange request, but please here me out. I bought this already slabbed a 9.6 about a year ago. I thought the centering was great (Comics Code box not cut off,) liked that it had white pages. Now I've looked this book over (through the slab anyway) and I cannot find any defects I typically see in a 9.6. I have other CGC graded books in 9.8 and 9.6 and can see a difference; this book looks like the 9.8's. There is actually a 9.8 CGC on eBay right now that appears to have small color breaking spine tics on the black portion of the cover. I put circles on these 2 pics of the 9.8 book. If I were to crack/resub and get a 9.8, this book's value essentially doubles from $100 to $200+, based on what I've seen. So I appeal to you, the experts. Am I crazy? Is there an explanation in the graders' notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunisherPunisherPunisher Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Your not crazy, sometimes it's a hit and sometimes it's a miss, just wish it was more consistent. I always hope to get my books graded on Fridays, like most people I hate working Monday's and I hope my books never get graded on Mondays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Looks like a very tiny piece out at the bottom right that triangulates the corner! Also, a flaked, transverse spine stress about 1/8th of an inch up from the bottom = a 9.6 from an otherwise 9.8 quality book, if I'm seeing those defects correctly. Edited February 9, 2018 by James J Johnson typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 consider the cost of certifying again.......then if it comes back as a 9.6 again.....now how much is your book worth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humantop Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 9.6 due to the bottom corner tip has a slight hair split, very minute though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I'd definitely not recommend trying for a crack and resub (even with a press) with this book. You could get lucky and pull a 9.8 but I'd put my money on you getting back a 9.6 or even a 9.4 with the current picky graders. Edited February 9, 2018 by 1Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joosh Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 Thanks for all the replies! If that bottom left corner is all it takes to go from 9.8 to 9.6 then that’s inconsistent with the vast majority of other CGC books I’ve inspected. It’s actually just missing a spot of ink, there’s no fold/crease. Appears to be made that way; no visible cause of damage. Someone mentioned the upper right corner; that’s not folded; it’s the Mylar pulling it down slightly because it overhangs the interior pages. I’m not going to get it regraded; I’ll be content believing I have the best 9.6 book out there. ? better than at least one of the 9.8’s anyways. If this book for some reason shoots up in value I’ll be seriously tempted to push my luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joosh Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 Update: I found 3 other CGC 9.8's on eBay, with the same lower left spot of black ink missing at corner. It didn't bring those down to a 9.6. I'll hold off the wall of pictures to show them unless someone wants to see. I added a better closeup of the upper right corner. It is kind of draped over the inner pages, not folded. I will digress. Thank you all once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 5:43 AM, 1Cool said: I'd definitely not recommend trying for a crack and resub (even with a press) with this book. You could get lucky and pull a 9.8 but I'd put my money on you getting back a 9.6 or even a 9.4 with the current picky graders. It'll never make 9.8. IMO, 9.6 was optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpfi27 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Greetings, Joosh I was hunting for Spectacular Spider-Man as usual, and I ran across this post. I would like to add my two-cents. Your copy is beautiful! Cut and Centering is magnificent! I have actually been looking for a perfectly centered 9.8 WP+ Copy to go with my set (~slpfi27~ Spectacular Spider-Man #001-#263 + Annuals and Variants. Set Name: "Nuff Said..." Located on the CGC Census). I think your book is beautiful, and I would agree that the grading in this issue is very interesting!?! Its always subjective, and I would have to agree with you. it looks to be a solid 9.8 Candidate. Centering and cut may not be part of CGC's Criteria when grading, but it should be with this book. I think you would see 95% of the 9.8's become 9.6 if this were part of the criteria. The Comics Logo is always cut off or super close to the edge, and the header bar and spine is always slanted and not squared. I know it is just "Spectacular Spider-Man #1" who cares... but when people do care the perfect chop and center will be the gold standard of this book. I agree with the fellow board members that it probably isn't a great idea to resub just because of the investment cost you have in regrading. I think your book is a GEM and I would hold onto it, like you said when the value of this book shoots up someday you'll have a super star. I challenge anyone to find a already graded CGC 9.8 WP Candidate that is centered and cut better than Joosh, because they aren't out there. If you got the centering, you got the bad cut... and if you got the Cut, you got the bad centering. To have both solid cut and centering is damn near impossible. I know because I have been looking. Keep that puppy safe Joosh! Sincerely, Brian W <slpfi27> Joosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 2/8/2018 at 10:04 PM, Joosh said: So I appeal to you, the experts. Am I crazy? No not crazy at all. So many comics we look at thru the slab and think it could / should be a grade either higher or lower. Sadly, it is what it is. My personal opinion, absolutely do not pay to crack and resubmit. Joosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joosh Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 I very much appreciate the positive response on this book’s qualities. I qualified the nonexistence of the perceived flaws and still had people saying the book could be a 9.4. My biggest hesitation against regrading is that the book gets damaged in the process. I believe it’s every bit a 9.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Joosh said: I very much appreciate the positive response on this book’s qualities. I qualified the nonexistence of the perceived flaws and still had people saying the book could be a 9.4. My biggest hesitation against regrading is that the book gets damaged in the process. I believe it’s every bit a 9.8. It *could* come back as a 9.8. It *could* come back as a 9.4. Probably comes back again as a 9.6. It's a really nice book and has value, but it's not super valuable. Not yet anyway. To pay to have it cracked; re-graded; shipping cost, wait time... Maybe wait and see if the book greatly appreciates in the next few years, then re-evaluate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpfi27 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 On 10/8/2019 at 6:33 AM, WPPJames said: It *could* come back as a 9.8. It *could* come back as a 9.4. Probably comes back again as a 9.6. It's a really nice book and has value, but it's not super valuable. Not yet anyway. To pay to have it cracked; re-graded; shipping cost, wait time... Maybe wait and see if the book greatly appreciates in the next few years, then re-evaluate? Agreed! Now is not the time. The book is a beauty regardless, and still one of the best centered and cut copies I have seen. Keep us updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron C. Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I would not regrade that book. 9.6 is your ceiling with those corners. It is a fun book though... On release, I had my Dad drive me around to multiple convenience stores to grab a bunch of these books on release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...