MatterEaterLad Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 hours ago, William-James88 said: And it turns out you were right. Congrats to the OP! Something is amiss with CGC's resto check at the moment. I don't think it's always been this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, MatterEaterLad said: Something is amiss with CGC's resto check at the moment. I don't think it's always been this bad. I remember lion's den telling us that the standard was only to put purple is you were sure it was restoration. Like the opposite of "by default". All the examples you mentioned, were they on recent submissions? The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatterEaterLad Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, William-James88 said: I remember lion's den telling us that the standard was only to put purple is you were sure it was restoration. Like the opposite of "by default". All the examples you mentioned, were they on recent submissions? Those examples were all in the last 8 months. The latest was a purple FF1. The previous label said it was trimmed on the top. It came back trimmed top and bottom. The book is trimmed 1/8. The first grading they determined it was the top. The second grading they said it's 1/16 top AND bottom. I sent scans of other FF1 covers showing the exact same centering, which makes it pretty clear it's only trimmed on the top edge, but they took a second look and told me to pound sand. In my mind, CGC saying it's trimmed on two sides is the equivalent (as far as value) of them trimming it, and it I didn't send the book in to be trimmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, MatterEaterLad said: Those examples were all in the last 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MatterEaterLad said: In my mind, CGC saying it's trimmed on two sides is the equivalent (as far as value) of them trimming it, and it I didn't send the book in to be trimmed. Sorry to quote you twice, but I just thought of another question. Does a book with more than one ide trimmed really sell for less than a book where only one side is trimmed? Same for 2 sides vs 3 sides? I always thought the comparison for value was simply trimmed vs not trimmed and the amount of trimming was not really indicative. Edited January 27, 2021 by William-James88 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin.J Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, William-James88 said: Sorry to quote you twice, but I just thought of another question. Does a book with more than one ide trimmed really sell for less than a book where only one side is trimmed? Same for 2 sides vs 4 sides and the like? I always thought the comparison for value was simply trimmed vs not trimmed and the amount of trimming was not really indicative. A book with 4 sides trimmed would be worth a lot less as now you have a load of loose pages without a spine MatterEaterLad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, Kevin.J said: A book with 4 sides trimmed would be worth a lot less as now you have a load of loose pages without a spine haha, right, I'll correct that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatterEaterLad Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, William-James88 said: Sorry to quote you twice, but I just thought of another question. Does a book with more than one ide trimmed really sell for less than a book where only one side is trimmed? Same for 2 sides vs 4 sides and the like? I always thought the comparison for value was simply trimmed vs not trimmed and the amount of trimming was not really indicative. If a book is trimmed, I'm guessing for most collectors the less trimming the better. So trimming on one side is better than two sides, all three sides, etc. With the OP's book, if he had listened to those who basically said, "Tough luck," there would be a non-restored book floating around out there with a purple label. I agree with CGCs grading 99% of the time and I'm grateful they provide that service. But if their resto check is going to have any kind of integrity, the onus of their mistakes shouldn't be on the submitter. steveinthecity and Albert Thurgood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, William-James88 said: I remember lion's den telling us that the standard was only to put purple is you were sure it was restoration. Like the opposite of "by default". All the examples you mentioned, were they on recent submissions? I'm happy the OP was able to get this resolved, but I find this whole situation pretty embarrassing... MatterEaterLad and TappanZee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: For me, one side or three sides...it doesn't matter. It's junk. I guess I'll just throw my trimmed Detective 27 in the trash then. The Lions Den and MatterEaterLad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...