MLarocque Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Was wondering if this might be worth cracking and resubmitting. What are your thoughts on grade? If you were told “cream to off-white pages” how would that affect your grade assessment? thanks for suggesting this, Loren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Welcome. It would help inform us if you had the graders notes and revealed the grade of the book. It's difficult to "grade" a book based on pics of the wraps alone through a case. Edited August 23, 2021 by Funnybooks grendelbo, candygramformongo and Deadpoolica 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygramformongo Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:51 AM, Funnybooks said: Welcome. It would help inform us if you had the graders notes and revealed the grade of the book. It's difficult to "grade" a book based on pics of the wraps alone through a case. Agree 100%. If you don't want opinions to be swayed so don't want to reveal the grade I understand but I think at least grader notes would be helpful. Also, key question for me would be whether the book was cleaned and pressed already or no? grendelbo and Funnybooks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I agree with the others. CRM-OW page quality won't matter in a book 9.4 or less, particularly from the Bronze Age. No effect on the grade. Deadpoolica and Funnybooks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:51 AM, Funnybooks said: Welcome. It would help inform us if you had the graders notes and revealed the grade of the book. It's difficult to "grade" a book based on pics of the wraps alone through a case. On 8/23/2021 at 12:55 PM, grendelbo said: I agree with the others. CRM-OW page quality won't matter in a book 9.4 or less, particularly from the Bronze Age. No effect on the grade. Funnybooks and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLarocque Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Point taken. I would like to hold the grade back until you offer your thoughts so I don’t sway anyone but here’s the graders notes: crease bottom of front cover light spine stress lines to cover stain left top of front cover stain right top of front cover I really can’t see these stains that are referenced but maybe one of you has better eyes than me? Edited August 24, 2021 by MLarocque Extra detail to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel3k Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 5:29 PM, MLarocque said: Point taken. I would like to hold the grade back until you offer your thoughts so I don’t sway anyone but here’s the graders notes: crease bottom of front cover light spine stress lines to cover stain left top of front cover stain right top of front cover I really can’t see these stains that are referenced but maybe one of you has better eyes than me? As far as the left top front cover, it looks like there is staining on the bottom of some of the letters in Marvel that extends down onto the A in Amazing? MLarocque 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 5:29 PM, MLarocque said: Point taken. I would like to hold the grade back until you offer your thoughts so I don’t sway anyone but here’s the graders notes: crease bottom of front cover light spine stress lines to cover stain left top of front cover stain right top of front cover I really can’t see these stains that are referenced but maybe one of you has better eyes than me? The crease is difficult to see with the light yellow background..how wide is the crease? Based on the notes and the pics I'll go out on a limb and guess this copy graded out at around 8.5 +/- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLarocque Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 I missed answering a previous question: the book was submitted to CCS for pressing so I believe that comes with some cleaning as well. No sure how much. To answer the last comment: I’m not sure how big the crease is cause I just don’t see it. I’ll add a diffferent angle if that shot. I will show the grade when I return tonight around midnight EST so anyone else that has a grade they want to suggest, last chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) I don't see a crease either but it may be more visible raw Without the crease, this copy appears closer to 9.0 The very evident stained areas will usually bring the grade down into vf range or less Edited August 25, 2021 by Funnybooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:29 PM, MLarocque said: I really can’t see these stains that are referenced but maybe one of you has better eyes than me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7.0 Whatever the grade, stains will likely hold it back. I would not crack to resubmit. I would crack to read and enjoy, though. Thanks for sharing. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 You're right -- the various stains are most likely the critical flaws. Even a grade of 6.0 FN to 6.5 FN+ would not surprise me. grendelbo and Funnybooks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLarocque Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Well here is the result. Agree? Disagree? grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 10:15 PM, MLarocque said: Well here is the result. Agree? Disagree? They hammer stains. Not surprising. It was going to be on that FN/VF cusp. Thanks again for letting us take a look. (You should see the size of the stain on my copy.) Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLarocque Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 8:37 PM, zzutak said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLarocque Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Yes, the stain around the A is obvious but I thought that more if a colour smudge from manufacturing but still a stain. Granted. There is a stain I have now found around the N in MAN that I’ve never seen before. It’s slight but they don’t miss a thing (don’t know if it can be cleaned?). Finally, the “crease bottom cover” is actually on Spider-Man‘s left eye. No texture thanks to pressing but does break colour a little. Again...I missed it. Still feel the grade is a little harsh but still best $375 I’ve ever spent. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
