Archaeos Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 It’s crazy to think this guy is still in business, I did one order with him and never again, sorry to hear all your troubles I hope everyone gets what they are owed or the money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Ciannavei Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) It would be nice if @CGC Comicswould stop grading his books as he is a terrible businessman but the way the world works, if they don’t have a problem with hotshot, then they have no reason to go to bat for anyone on this thread or otherwise that have been burned by this hack of a seller. Edited August 5, 2022 by Steven Ciannavei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 3:02 AM, Steven Ciannavei said: It would be nice if @CGC Comicswould stop grading his books as he is a terrible businessman but the way the world works, if they don’t have a problem with hotshot, then they have no reason to go to bat for anyone on this thread or otherwise that have been burned by this hack of a seller. I would think if enough people made complaints about the seller, with full documentation and possibly police reports, that would go a long way towards CGC rethinking their association. But they don't sit around looking through these threads for no reason, people have to make their complaints and document and follow up and escalate the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 6:02 AM, Steven Ciannavei said: It would be nice if @CGC Comicswould stop grading his books as he is a terrible businessman but the way the world works, if they don’t have a problem with hotshot, then they have no reason to go to bat for anyone on this thread or otherwise that have been burned by this hack of a seller. Perhaps, but I imagine that there is nothing about their direct dealings that violates any of CGC's terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 9:43 AM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said: Perhaps, but I imagine that there is nothing about their direct dealings that violates any of CGC's terms. As long as they pay their bill, it has nothing to do with CGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas-71 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Still waiting on 2 books from April of 2021. Sellers like this give the business a bad name and make it more difficult to trust other people selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Wow that's messed up, will definitely stay away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONTE Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Order from March 26th still nothing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 There’s a good reason why preorders are restricted on eBay and get taken down if reported fastballspecial and Artboy99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquad911 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I have also been scammed by Hotshot Comics. I have over $600 in preorders. 2 from March 2022 and 1 from July 2022 Always generic cut and paste responses from the owner (Doug Cegelis Asheville Comics) blaming CGC wait times... I've sent in books to CGC and received them back within 2 months. CCS is a different story (8 months+) hahaha! These pre-orders were of newly released books CGC graded 9.8 (Star Wars Halcyon #1, Mandalorian #1, Star Wars Visions #1 and Eight Billion Genies #1) in 2 months all these books were in stock and ready to ship at other retailers... while with Hotshot 10 months later "They are still in the CGC pipeline" After speaking with my credit card company I realize why he puts 16-18 weeks turnaround time... Most credit card companies only give you purchase protection up to 90 days and some top tier cards give you 120 days of protection.... So his times help him to scam and not get charged back. Looking at his website now... the turnaround times on preorders are 40-52 weeks! WHAT A JOKE! Most of those pre-order books are in stock and available everywhere else! Lucky enough for me I used a top tier credit card and 6-10 months later they reversed the July charge no questions asked and have frozen the funds and launched an investigation for my March purchases. Hopefully they will decide in my favor... They almost always usually do. In the end this was and still is a huge aggravation. Buying comics should be fun and Hotshot Comics is a cancer that needs to be cut out from the collecting community! BEWARE OF HOTSHOT COMICS stay away! do-boy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyborehol Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 It’s obvious for the detailed accounts in this thread that this specific seller is super-shady, but let me just suggest that you should never pre-order a graded book in a specific grade from anyone. Even if the seller has good intentions, there’s always a risk that CGC will be severely backlogged when they submit their books as well as that the seller won’t get everything back in the grades that they promised in the pre-sale. Maybe I’d feel comfortable preordering if the seller laid out very specific terms about what they’ll do in the event of a CGC delay or if their submissions come back with lower grades and I’ve seen testimonials about how they’ve adhered to those terms, but I’m not aware of any pre-sellers who fit that criteria. Artboy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakaarian collector Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Better Business Bureau perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 10:56 AM, Timeless icons said: Better Business Bureau perhaps? I don't think they hold any actual power. I'm pretty sure they're just pre-internet Yelp. Sakaarian collector and Dr. Balls 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 9:29 AM, andyborehol said: It’s obvious for the detailed accounts in this thread that this specific seller is super-shady, but let me just suggest that you should never pre-order a graded book in a specific grade from anyone. Even if the seller has good intentions, there’s always a risk that CGC will be severely backlogged when they submit their books as well as that the seller won’t get everything back in the grades that they promised in the pre-sale. Maybe I’d feel comfortable preordering if the seller laid out very specific terms about what they’ll do in the event of a CGC delay or if their submissions come back with lower grades and I’ve seen testimonials about how they’ve adhered to those terms, but I’m not aware of any pre-sellers who fit that criteria. THIS The comic seller should only be offering books they have in hand. This pre-order business model is nothing but trouble. I ordered books from an online seller last year and they took 12 months to arrive, these were raw not CGC graded. The seller made good on my order and it was explained to me that the artist did not send the books. If anything, the experience was a learning one for me and I am done buying pre-order exclusives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted June 27, 2023 Administrator Share Posted June 27, 2023 Important info regarding HotShotComics and his customers books at CGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhryz Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 For any who are interested, this is him, and some books I’ve been waiting on for years are in the sold items/feedback history or real bummer: https://www.ebay.com/str/collectingeverything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Dog Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) I also just got scammed by Asheville comics, aka Hotshotcomics I bought a low grade Adventures Comics #52 directly from their store (though I found it on ebay as well under their other account). It was advertised as 1.0 complete but with a detached cover and centrefold (both defects I was fine with as I wanted to make this my next Conservation project and reattach them). Got the book in and found that several large panels were cut out of multiple pages....so incomplete. Reached out to them and they basically accused me of lying, saying that they inspect all the pages before hand (the missing parts are so large you would notice if you had your eyes closed and flipped through the book - one of the pages impacted was the very last page, so just opening up the back cover would reveal it). None of this was disclosed in either the original ebay listing (pictures only show the centrefold and front and back covers) nor the discussions I had with the owner when asking about condition. I showed him a video of me flipping through the book (in order to clearly show it was the same book they sold me thanks to unique markings), but they freaked out because I posted it on my instagram (a temporary story just so they can see it and I would delete it after they confirmed it. It was the only method I had to share a larger video file with them that day) and they then ignored all my messages from that point on (even contact requests through their Asheville website) I would have been happy to discuss a partial refund to put the value more in line with the actual grade, or return it outright at their expense...but since I'm being ignored now I've no choice but to now go through my bank and dispute the entire charge on my credit card (they sent me an invoice from the store to pay that way at least). Edited January 12 by Sauce Dog grendelbo, Point Five, Cat and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/12/2024 at 5:46 PM, Sauce Dog said: I also just got scammed by Asheville comics, aka Hotshotcomics I bought a low grade Adventures Comics #52 directly from their store (though I found it on ebay as well under their other account). It was advertised as 1.0 complete but with a detached cover and centrefold (both defects I was fine with as I wanted to make this my next Conservation project and reattach them). Got the book in and found that several large panels were cut out of multiple pages....so incomplete. Reached out to them and they basically accused me of lying, saying that they inspect all the pages before hand (the missing parts are so large you would notice if you had your eyes closed and flipped through the book - one of the pages impacted was the very last page, so just opening up the back cover would reveal it). None of this was disclosed in either the original ebay listing (pictures only show the centrefold and front and back covers) nor the discussions I had with the owner when asking about condition. I showed him a video of me flipping through the book (in order to clearly show it was the same book they sold me thanks to unique markings), but they freaked out because I posted it on my instagram (a temporary story just so they can see it and I would delete it after they confirmed it. It was the only method I had to share a larger video file with them that day) and they then ignored all my messages from that point on (even contact requests through their Asheville website) I would have been happy to discuss a partial refund to put the value more in line with the actual grade, or return it outright at their expense...but since I'm being ignored now I've no choice but to now go through my bank and dispute the entire charge on my credit card (they sent me an invoice from the store to pay that way at least). Oh geez! That's horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...