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CGC vs. PGX Part II & Various Other Random Things

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X-ray Spexx

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I read the OG post and found the discussion that followed to be interesting in and of itself plus raised a bunch of other questions.

1. I agree, I tend to be hesitant to buy PGX or get stuff graded by them because the overall consensus in the community ( buyers, dealers, etc. ) say they suck! I don't know if they suck or not cause I've never bought or had anything graded by them. All I know is that it sucks for PGX cause word of mouth is everything and by what I hear nobody will even give them a chance. I think it would be good for CGC to have a viable competitor cause this chokehold they have on the market sucks! I will say one thing, have you ever held a PGX slab? Those things are like twice as thick as CGC slabs, I thought that was cool! CGC could up their game in that regard, they'd probably charge us more though.

2. Now let me say this is not hate first of all. I see a lot of posts where people talk about how they just love CGC, the service, the convenience, the people, like on a personal level. I'm a little more cynical. While I appreciate the service they provide, make no mistake, I pay through the nose for that service cause it sure as hell aint cheap! As of now, I think I've easily spent more on buying slabs or getting books slabbed than I ever did on buying actual raw books. When I used to by raw books, I was content in my ignorance, hell everything that looked good to me was a 9.8. In fact there was no such thing as a 9.8, anything 9.0 or greater was NM and that was that. After CGC, I'm way more conscious about those treasures from my childhood. Its like looking at your children and having a favorite. That being said, why does CGC ask for a discount code when you submit, who the hell gets a discount on CGC grading, someone explain how that happens! Why is the turnaround estimate so off, a value submission takes like 5-6 months in realtime, not 59 business days! I submitted a coupon submission which is supposed to be 15 days, it took like 30+. Why is it that you can submit multiple submissions and your later submissions can end up in the queue before the earlier ones, and the list goes on.

3. You truly can take a CGC slab, crack it and resubmit it straight away and get a lower grade. The proof; Tnerb's quintuple signed quadruple pressed ASM 129 which started out a 9.6 and after being written on and baked to many times to count then begging for death ultimately came back a 9.4 ( though that story is clearly not over ). Let us remember this is Tnerb whom we all know and trust and thus it must be true. I buy the idea that there are 9.8's which I think we call agree on, but do 9.9 and 10's truly exist? Can anyone tell me the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 or a 10, or a 9.9 and a 10? I guess the pages in a 9.9 or a 10 are not only white but they still have sap on them. Maybe you can see the age of the tree in the pages. 9.9 and 10's don't exist, I think its just a gimmick by CGC to give people something to strive for. I'd be curious to see what people think. Does anyone even have a 9.9 or 10 and can they post it so we can see it.

4. Nowadays everyone is all about the 9.8, its got to be a 9.8 or its trash. I've got a friend who's like " I've got the eye, I can spot a 9.8 anywhere ". Lets be clear, if you submit a book from 1990 to present and its a 9.8 does that really mean anything. I mean, I guess it does, but once comics stopped being printed on wood pulp and started looking like Vogue magazines the 9.8 grade doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Unless your willing to buy them from me on eBay for top dollar, then by all means 9.8 and nothing less. I respect peoples interests and preferences but if you've got a 9.8 from 2013 and your calling it a gem your still telling lies to me. Lets get some CGC snobbery going on here. Although I do like Jupiters Legacy, Sex Criminals, and Manhattan Projects. I bought two comic books today and it cost me like $7. What happened to the day when $7 got you 9-10 books and a slurpee.

5. I got some books pressed recently and I gotta say, its the way to go. I know people are split on the idea, but dude lets be real, your not really adding anything to the book and it can clearly add value and pop. I submitted 2 Hulk 181's unslabbed back before I bit the CGC apple and opened my eyes. Submitted them and they came back 8.5's, and I gotta say I was pretty devastated to have spent so much and waited so long to get 8.5's. I sent them to get pressed and they came back 9 & 9.2 easily adding ridiculous value. If I were to go out and buy a 9 & 9.2 I'd probably spend around a grand or more each. I don't want someone else's book thats been graded, I wanted my book to be that grade and pressing is the only way. Its like having a child that grows up and works at McDonald's, which is cool cause I like Mickey D's, but you might always want more for them. Sorry Screenwriter 3D.

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