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I had one of these in my old shop window. That's how it ended up when I took it out

They add the word "Variant" for the fools.

Usually just a recolored logo on the same cover as the 1st print.

Strangely, most of the 1st prints will be on Diamonds clearance list in a month or 2

Looks like the Star Wars Anniversary variants are doing ok.

Especially Poe Dameron #10.

The first 3: Star Wars 26, Poe Dameron 10 & Dr Aphra 3 are already tough to find

in the UK, how about Stateside?

Come on guys, get out to those flea markets, I love this thread

This thread is going to the dawgs . . . in before the lock. It hasn't been on topic for 50 pages of squabble. All of you guys should be ashamed of yourselves for contributing.

Got it, I will just pay for a few random people's comics one day.

 

 

*quietly backs out of the CGC side of the boards*

 

 

 

-slym

ah, sorry, had to read through 12 pages of arguments before I saw you'd given up

If you had a $50 gift certificate to your LCS and had to spend it all at once, tomorrow, what comics would you buy & why?

 

Because I totally have a $50 GC to a LCS that is gonna expire in 2017, and I don't want it to go to waste. It's just that I don't do much in the way of buying new comics at all these days.

 

Any answer is acceptable. PM me if you feel you need to.

 

 

 

 

-slym (might just hang about the shop one day & pay for a few people's purchases)

Motor Girl is a fun read, just the #1 issue so far though. Maybe buy 15 copies & hand out 14 to other people at the store?

66 posts from the last time I looked... can someone fill me in what we are arguing over now?!?

Always (and I mean always) look at the 1st new post then click on "Last post"

if there are multiple posts when you come on here. It saves a lot of wasted time

I suspect these won't last much longer.

 

Can't be too many left now.

 

GHOST RIDER #1 back up

 

http://frankiescomics.com/products/xjc0myvp98

Gone, I couldn't buy it without seeing it. Probably my loss.

Probably not, it's Ghost Rider.

Another 7 issue run before low sales get it cancelled

These DC are still returnable so not too much risk over ordering these.

Numbers would be easier to check if they weren't.

Harley Quinn #30 - 45,000

Wonder what the jump will be with next months #1

No is the simple answer but yeah Nick at Comicana

Could someone who objects to using the reported sales for an issue as a basis for the *estimate* of the print run of an incentive explain to me what a publisher has to gain by intentionally printing far more than they need, if they're only going to blow them out cheaply later on? What's to gain there? If there was a trail of evidence suggesting that the publisher was selling those variants at a markup later on, then there would be logic to the idea that the print run far exceeds the estimate based on sales, but it makes no sense for them to print far more if they don't need them and are going to sit on them (and pay Diamond to store them), only to let them go for pennies later.

No idea but on the last Diamond UK open day we were invited to look through their stock & note down any we wanted to order, we weren't allowed to pull copies as their staff would do this later for us to keep their stock levels correct.

We were after a copy of Wolverine Origins #2 for a customer but found they had none left.

However, they did have 2 full longboxes (600 copies) of Wolverine Origins #2 - 1:100 Canadian Flag Variant! We weren't allowed one.

They were blown out at 25 pence each about 5 months later & we managed to get 50 copies.

This is not a limited incident either, still happens quite a lot

Tell me more about GL20.

An $8.00 cover price!

Is it worth it even if i find it?

Is the B&W the best variant?

Has a cameo of Jessica Cruz's hand

On the off chance that someone knows why.

I've sold no copies of New 52 Green Lantern #20 this year

until today when I've sold 4 copies to different buyers (although 1 buyer bought

from 2 different accounts)?

There's now a separate thread for this discussion.

Can you all please take it over there & not ruin a once great thread

All five cover set for $16.99 plus shipping on the bay. Not my listing.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-WALKING-DEAD-150-5-Cover-Set-Kirkman-Adlard-Latour-Ottley-Tony-Moore-/191757522332?hash=item2ca5a3959c:g:F2gAAOSwfZ1Waiyx

Not bad $4.60 each book

That's risky, we still have no Diamond codes or ratios for these

Han has been doing okay too. But I collect to have, call me old fashioned. Can't wait for the pics of the new DUMP variants

 

 

Jerome

They were offered to UK accounts yesterday.

#5, #7, #8 & #9 only

so no big dump over here

If it looks like a duck...

 

It would seem that Marvel is terrible at predicting demand or they actually are using the 2nd prints to boost sales. Capitalism rocks so no qualms here. It just doesn't make sense to change covers and pay for the additional art other than to sell to the same group of people who bought the 1st printing. Star Wars #1 is on a 7th printing with a butt ugly background relative to the 1st printings. They had as many printings for Ms. Marvel #1 and nearly as many for Edge of Spider-verse. Who miscalculated 6 times ( more than once ) and still has a job ?

 

Not picking a side just pointing out the obvious extra expense for each cover change versus just adding the 2nd print notation ?

 

Marvel sells out at distribution on almost all of their books.

But the difference between Hulk #14 selling out at distribution and Star Wars #3 selling out at distribution is that demand is still there for Star Wars #3 due to under ordering by the RETAILERS combined with greater demand by the public.

If retailers order more - Marvel prints more.

It's really that simple. There's no nerfarious plan to make a 2nd print and manipulate the market into thinking something is hotter than it is. Star Wars #3 (as an example) DID sell out at RETAIL in many markets, and demand dictated that another print was needed.

If it had sold out at distribution, but a ton of it was still available on the retail level (i.e. no demand), they wouldn't have printed another run.

In other words: additional printings are primarily based upon demand after sell through at the retail level, which they would obviously have no idea of when actually printing the book.

Marvel would PREFER that retailers (somehow) know the amount of copies they need over a 12 month period for every book they publish - but most retailers order for what they need in a much, much smaller window than that.

In the Direct Market, set up to the benefit of the publishers, they publish close to the vest on most everything - based upon what retailers order.

And Marvel's additional art for the Star Wars books has been a change of background color or a color overlay. No big added expense there.

The one big publisher that over publishes - DC Comics - was down heavily this year.

Marvel chose a business model that is more cost efficient, not as a way to manipulate the market.

That occurs in advertising and promotion, not publishing.

 

 

It's not just one big publisher

Marvel choose to let Diamond clear out their overstock at heavily discounted prices (and they have lots of it),

DC don't, even DCs clearance stuff is not priced to shift

 

Even if that's what I was talking abut it's not true - DC has clearance sales through Diamond.

 

What I'm talking about is available reorders on current and somewhat current product.

 

I can still order Starfire #3 through Diamond (released 8/12)

Age of Apocalypse #5 which came out three weeks ago is sold out at Diamond.

I can still order Batman back through #41 (which came out in June), but nothing is available of the regular Amazing Spider-man and only Renew Your Vows #5 (on Low) is left.

 

This is common.

Yep, I mentioned DCs clearance stuff, maybe you get better offers in the US?

guess this is a US vs UK thing,

I've got these coming next week at 25p each

10 x 01909297 2 APR140682 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #1.2 FERRY VAR 0.25

10 x 01909297 2 JAN150779 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #16 0.25

10 x 01909297 2 MAR150700 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #18 0.25

10 x 01909297 2 APR150878 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #19.1 0.25

As for Age of Apocalypse #5, no I can't order those either but #1,2,3 & 4 are in stock.

If it looks like a duck...

 

It would seem that Marvel is terrible at predicting demand or they actually are using the 2nd prints to boost sales. Capitalism rocks so no qualms here. It just doesn't make sense to change covers and pay for the additional art other than to sell to the same group of people who bought the 1st printing. Star Wars #1 is on a 7th printing with a butt ugly background relative to the 1st printings. They had as many printings for Ms. Marvel #1 and nearly as many for Edge of Spider-verse. Who miscalculated 6 times ( more than once ) and still has a job ?

 

Not picking a side just pointing out the obvious extra expense for each cover change versus just adding the 2nd print notation ?

 

Marvel sells out at distribution on almost all of their books.

But the difference between Hulk #14 selling out at distribution and Star Wars #3 selling out at distribution is that demand is still there for Star Wars #3 due to under ordering by the RETAILERS combined with greater demand by the public.

If retailers order more - Marvel prints more.

It's really that simple. There's no nerfarious plan to make a 2nd print and manipulate the market into thinking something is hotter than it is. Star Wars #3 (as an example) DID sell out at RETAIL in many markets, and demand dictated that another print was needed.

If it had sold out at distribution, but a ton of it was still available on the retail level (i.e. no demand), they wouldn't have printed another run.

In other words: additional printings are primarily based upon demand after sell through at the retail level, which they would obviously have no idea of when actually printing the book.

Marvel would PREFER that retailers (somehow) know the amount of copies they need over a 12 month period for every book they publish - but most retailers order for what they need in a much, much smaller window than that.

In the Direct Market, set up to the benefit of the publishers, they publish close to the vest on most everything - based upon what retailers order.

And Marvel's additional art for the Star Wars books has been a change of background color or a color overlay. No big added expense there.

The one big publisher that over publishes - DC Comics - was down heavily this year.

Marvel chose a business model that is more cost efficient, not as a way to manipulate the market.

That occurs in advertising and promotion, not publishing.

It's not just one big publisher

Marvel choose to let Diamond clear out their overstock at heavily discounted prices (and they have lots of it),

DC don't, even DCs clearance stuff is not priced to shift

Heaveno, nothing really of note happening this week.

 

Some Niobe self speculation nonsense talk but aside from that, nothing new to report.

 

That is my summary of the last 20 pages. You're welcome.

Jimmy, you are a legend sir & I thank you.

I looked on here at the 111 new posts and thought

"Ugh! I wish someone would summarise every 20 pages or so so I

don't have to wade through all this nothing"

and who's going to be on the C3P0 One Shot

Let's see if that starts something

You don't need a web site to pump a book. All you have to do is post in one of these heating up threads after you've bought a bunch of books on ebay for cheap and then bid up the remaining copy to a high amount.....so let's say you snag Justice League International Annual 4 for $3 or less per copy but buy all that you can find on ebay, initial investment of what a $100 and then there's a few auctions left so you say something like "Oh wow I just tried to buy JLI Annual 4 on ebay because I heard Lionheart is going to be in Legends of Tomorrow in the third season and all of the BINs sold today???" in this thread, which will compel someone to go and bid on the live auctions that you've already bid on by this point, just make sure you bid at least $20 on this $1 book and then boom you've got a book that's heating up...you can then sell your $1 books for $12-$15 ($5-$8 below the gavel price so a bargain for the new owner right!) and now you've profited off of speculating...

JLI Annual #4 you say?

Off to see what's left.

Do you have a link to the Lionheart info?

 

The only exception to this is buying from a well known overseas retailer, like Forbidden Planet. Those retailers do know how important condition is.

You picked the only UK retailer who like to clean their floors with new releases.

Most of Forbidden Planet staff don't even know what a comic is let alone the importance of condition

What is the importance of Green Lantern 201?. Im no so up on my DC keys.

it got hot overnight, that's about it really