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Unless someone at Heritage scooped up the CA 1.

Not according to Rob's site. Been around.

Based on Rob Larsen's site, I don't think so. Could be the Mile High or the SF copy (those would fit Buttock's description). Could be other copies that are known or rumored to exist.

Do share.

Just a guess, but is it in this picture?

They said no EC horror on the video. They talked a bit about Crime Patrol.

Too bad those post-date the end of the collection by a few years. But, you can really score on all those 1943 to 1950 covers! What are they of again?

I should also add, I believe they stated they are planning to auction some books raw on the weekends. Lower value books where the CGC treatment is not warranted. Famous Funnies was a title mentioned. Someone should feel free to correct me if I misheard this. The production values were a little handheld and that could be distracting, although Lon and Ed and the moderator were all very clear and on message.

Whaaa? Sorry, I dozed off. Thought it was directly in line with all of Heritage's communications. But I did appreciate the few bits of new info that dripped out in the portion I saw. What I'd appreciate most is if they posted a list of all the books (a list which they do have), so I can plan accordingly. For example, today they let it be known there is no Suspense 3. I'm guessing that was helpful to anyone who is looking to buy some books, but was pondering holding back their spending in the hopes a Suspense 3 appeared.

I've seen some pretty beautiful Tarzan related books posted on this site at times.

Here are my reasons: First, I find Overstreet a better quick at-a-glance reference than any other alternative. I can find basic information in a copy of the OPG far faster than I can from any on-line sources. GCD is a time suck. And I can put it in a glove box for when I need it on the go, without fear of wifi troubles. In other words, it is just an incredibly convenient and easy reference to use to quickly get an answer. And for me a quick answer is often worth the cover price of the book. Second, Overstreet has had some great articles and is full of historical data. Third, I really like the ads. Especially, seeing the ads evolve over time. Fourth, the pricing info is a good guide. It gives me at a quick glance a sense of a what a comic might be worth, especially if it likely to have value beyond other issues in the series. Fifth, as many have noted, it has a history and a continuity that I want to see sustained. That's the same reason I intentionally try to buy some of my archive/masterworks/collected edition books from the local comic store instead of Amazon. To sustain some of the aspects of the hobby which made it great for me. All of the flaws of Overstreet could be fixed in short order. Make me editor for a year, and I could fix almost all of the substantive information flaws. It just would not be hard. Especially if the expertise of the collector community was solicited, not ignored, as it sometimes is. Fixing OPG would also serve to fix the inaccuracies that CGC and Heritage propound. An easy fix that we should be trying to fix to make the OPG better, not trying to kill it off. What I couldn't fix is that it is a once a year publication that cannot keep up in real time with pricing fluctuations. That can only be done with an on-line presence. But, I could make the one-year snapshot much more accurate. And for me, that's good enough.

Could not agree more. I'm drawn to seeking books off the beaten path, and what drives me is history, cool art, my own tastes, and other factors which are not dictated by investment potential. It this hobby were, for me, only about investment potential I would not be spending so much time looking for books that have taken me years or more than a decade to find. Most of the threads I put up on this site are about the thrill and joy of finally finding the book I've been looking for or finding out some new information which I've wanted to know.

There is a major difference between the present generation of GA collectors and the SA/Bronze collectors: A significant segment of GA collectors are inordinantly drawn to comics with little pop culture relevance because they are "shocking" or "risque" for their time of publication. SA/Bronze collectors are mainly pursuing first appearances of characters with pop culture relevance, whether it be Spiderman, GSXM, TMNT, Albedo, Blade, etc. Some laugh at how movies drive up prices, but the MCU movies are a major determiner of pop culture relevance. I hate to say this, but in the long term I'd be more comfortable betting on pop culture relevance over "shocking" or "risque" bondage covers. Especially in a world in which increasingly very little is shocking and risque and a good part of that world is much more sensitive to "me too" type issues. Don't get me wrong, PL 17 has real historical significance. But, sometimes I think a lot of GGA is valued because collectors are looking at it out of the eyes of a 1940s/1950s teenage boy, and I'm not sure that is a view which is going to carry on into the future with kids who grow up with life experiences which make them think what was once GGA to a teenage boy is now just a drawing which can't hold a candle to Instragram beauties and the porn they can access from their phones. Just a thought.

I prefer the 9.4. The 9.4 is structurally sounder than the 9.6 (check out the top right corner for the 9.6 to see how the pages are wonky and the left edge to see evidence of manipulation that left a bit of a mark). I agree that the cut is a little higher on the 9.4 than the 9.6, so some of the writing on the bottom of the cover (which is tilted on both copies) is cut-off. The top left corner of the 9.6 has a piece missing. The corners of the 9.4 are immaculate. The 9.6 has printing defects (missing ink) in the "Feb.-Mar." and the blacks are spotty, suggesting that the 9.6 was printed towards the end of the run when the rollers were losing ink. In contrast, the 9.4 has perfect printing. IMHO, the holders need to be flipped at least! P.S. I note the 9.6 is denoted as white, whereas the 9.4 is denoted as ow/w. But since Heritage has already stated the Promise books are not as white as the Mile Highs and San Francisco's, without seeing pics of the interiors of both books its hard for me to assess the PQ.

The Promise Collection is twice inherited. Chinatown was once inherited and then sold to a dealer.

For me, Fast Track Economy and Standard. I'm not at all happy. I'm even less happy that CGC thinks they are understaffed by 500 people! I hate to say this, but am I going to be charged "fast track" prices to get my books later than the non-fast track estimates when I submitted? Really hope they get their act together ASAP. They need more competition, and they are creating an opening for just that.

Cool! Just curious, my best work friend is deeply involved in the Lakers and my recollection is that Jerry Buss once owned the Mile High Planets, but sold out when he hit a patch of financial troubles. I'm just curious of anyone ever came across him as a collector. Cage used to live here in SF (post-fame, obviously he grew up here but I did not) and I ran across him a few times (not comic related). I used to get bumped to the front of the line at a few local Indian restaurants. Never understood why. My friends thought it was because I had a vague resemblance to Cage (long since gone with my hair).

This might be for you: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203477791684?hash=item2f6038b3c4:g:znYAAOSwgOtgs7lH

To bad that book is not in this auction. It is the only book that would get a bounce solely because of the story, and the only book that wouldn't attract the top of census chasers, so it might go for a decent price at this point.

That is a great story, Bob. Did you ever do business with Jerry Buss (another doctor and, I think, comic collector in LA)?

Total collection is north of $25M I bet ($5K avg. per issue price). But, average price will decline from the $10K+ I expect for this auction as this is a cherry picked lot based on CGC census status.

I would not be shocked to see an average over $10K each (some much higher, some lower). I think the avg. price per book will exceed the BW despite the absence of the mega-keys. Speaking of which, am I dreaming or wasn't there a CA 1? What happened to it.

Still too low.

Perhaps he has heirs who are into comics also who will love the books as much as he has. I'm not pushing anyone to sell. The only point I'm trying to make is simply this: There are still OO collections out there. Some no longer reside with the OO. Some are held by collectors that bought the OOs collection in toto. There is no reason that such OO collections could not be submitted to CGC and get pedigree status. We've just seen it happen with the Chinatown pedigree - 1,300 books purchased by a collector/dealer from an OO in 1997 and only given pedigree status 24 years later. BZ has at least one such OO pedigree quality group of books which has not been submitted to CGC, and maybe more. The Dentist also has such a group of OO pedigree quality books which have not been submitted to CGC, and who knows whether they will ever be sold, but they are out there. What else lurks in the collections of the guys who are now in their late 60s and older who were fortunate enough to start collecting when GA comics were cheap and plentiful? I think we'll see some surprises come to light because a lot of those guys are pretty secretive about their holdings.

BZ has stated that the most of the best books came from the same 2,000+ book OO lot and he can identify all of those books (probably due to how he stores the books and it does not hurt that many have a stamp on the back). Those books have more than enough mega-keys to qualify for pedigree status. We're talking Superman 1, D27, AA 16, All-Star 3 and 8, Adventure 40, Planet 1, Pep 1 and 22, numerous Centaurs, Timely's, etc. which have been pictured on this site (the big mystery is whether he has an Action 1). But, that's not the only grouping of OO comics he has. He once threw out four or five names of OO groupings he can still identify. There is no reason to doubt what BZ said. He was ahead of his time as a collector, buying comics starting in the early 60s through ads that got him to OO collections. I am not mentioning his name because he has made it clear he values his privacy and he had some health problems a while back, but his identity is known to a number of posters on this board including guys posting on this thread.