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Sweet!

And not at all that because using the OPG estimates, especially when the book tops out above the OPG range, makes the auction house look good.

Bedrock just deleted his post. Edited: Oh ... I get it. You are talking about the new pedigree we should all be focusing on!

Next highest AS 3 result is $126K for the MH 9.6 in 2002. So its gone up about 284% in a lesser grade since the last major transaction. Not bad considering its not a character first appearance (or even first superhero team-up). Got more than a pure cover book like Suspense 3 has, and not many non-no. 1 and non-character first appearances superhero comics can top it (Action 7 would I assume and some other early DCs important for their covers), certainly none that I can think of from 1940.

The only way I can reconcile what Bedrock said with the Pedigree book is as follows: DA was looking to buy the MH from Overstreet in 1990, and was supposed to get a good replacement for Overstreet. Instead, in 1991 he bought and kept the Northern Cal pedigree (which I think was dropped because it was not CGC recognized). And if he gave Bob a book to buy the MH from him, it was a Hawkeye (which had surfaced six years earlier in the mid-80s). Under this reading, what got confused is what book went where and which were CGC'd. Maybe the Hawkeye went to CGC and Overstreet, DA got the MH and its glue spot, and held on to the Northern Cal which is in his black hole of comics still. At least that's how I reconcile the stories. Otherwise, based on what Bedrock said, the pedigree book write-up is just complete B.S. that confuses Hawkeyes discovered in the mid-80s in Iowa with a made-up story about books surfacing in response to an ad in Overstreet in 1991 from Northern California. I think it is probably not B.S.

Or he bought the All-Star 3 9.6 which was a Mile High.

"Northern Cal" - Here's what the pedigree book site had to say about the story of Anderson's find: Northern Cal Pedigree Northern Cal Browse the scans If one ever wonders how useful an Overstreet ad can be for finding new material, they only have to talk to David Anderson in Virginia. In 1990 Anderson agreed to buy Bob Overstreet's Mile High copy of All-Star #3, but only if he could also find a suitable replacement. This was not going to be an easy feat as high grade copies of #3 are quite rare. To aid Dave in his quest, Bob offered him a free full page ad in the 1991 Overstreet Price Guide. Within a few months after publication, Dave received a letter from an elderly gentlemen on the West Coast, leading Dave to what he says was the best collection he had ever acquired first-hand up to that point...and for him that's saying a lot. The Northern Cal Collection is possibly the least known of all 45 Golden Age pedigrees, yet contains books that would rival most of them. And the All-Star #3 in the collection? It was so nice, Dave kept it for himself. The copy was eventually graded 9.4 by CGC.

No idea what the indian reservation collection is. I agree that there are no pedigrees sitting around that have already been slabbed. I'm talking about unslabbed collections, like BZ's 2,500 book WTG (,matbe W.T. "Gilchrist") original owner collection that would be pedigrees if that status was sought. As I recollect it, and it appears the internet has been a bit scrubbed since the Pedigree books guys joined CGC, is that DA agreed to sell his All-Star 3 to Overstreet on the condition that Overstreet would let him run an ad in the OPG to get a suitable replacement. A guy called him up saying he had a high grade All-Star 3. Turns out he had more than that. They have entered the black hole that is DA's collection. That's my recollection. Don't have time to confirm that it is correct right now.

I'd most want to see a bunch of late 40s and early 50s high grade books.

The collection must originate from an OO, but it does not matter if we don't know who that OO was as a long as a dealer vouches for it. Go figure. Cosmic Aeroplane, Kansas City, Allentown are sort of a continuum of these type of books.

Dave Anderson has one he picked up in California.

Bangzoom knows the name of the OO.

The labeling of a Nic Cage collection book is different than the labeling of, for example, a Cosmic Aeroplane. But, a Billy Wright, which went straight from the OO to an auction house is not distinct from a Cosmic Aero or a Kansas City or any number of other "pedigrees" which filtered out to the market through a dealer or dealers. So here's my hypothetical: A guy finds 2,500 high grade GA comics in a garbage can and takes them to a dealer. The dealer puts them into his personal collection but keeps them segregated. 50 years later the dealer wants to bring them to market as a pedigree. Works or not?

It was my mistake, but Nancy (and Sluggo) does not belong on the list. She was in continuing publication since early GA, but the title changed from Tip Top in the 50s.

Not true. All it takes to get a pedigree is for a dealer to submit a group of books he attests came from one original owner. The OO does not need to make the submission. And the submission by the dealer or collectors who bought from the dealer can be years after the fact, after the comics have already entered the marketplace.

That is D. Tracy up above.

That's impressive if it came from an OO. We all know that there are still troves of high grade comics residing in collections that could qualify as a pedigree, like BZ's 2,500 "WTG" books. If this is a truly new OO discovery, that's pretty fun!

Eras don't apply to titles. If every title has a different start and end date for each "era," than the "era" is an entirely ridiculous and unhelpful term. The "Golden Age" is really the "Golden Age of Superhero Comics" commencing with the first superhero comic - Action 1 - which led to a proliferation of superhero titles. The "Silver Age" is really the "Silver Age of Superhero Comics" commencing with the first successful reboot of a GA hero - Showcase 4 - which led to a renaissance and proliferation of superhero titles. Collectors tend to use GA and SA for all books because superhero comics rule the roost for most collectors. Those "eras" don't really have any direct application to the contents of Donald Duck or Roy Rogers, etc., which are not superhero titles. Which is why for some genres the better demarcations are "pre-code" and "post-code," etc. which had no relevance to superhero comics. (Atom-Age doesn't really work for anything in my book.) So seems like a pointless exercise to try and debate when the SA of Andy Panda began.

More Dells: Andy Panda Tracy (Dell through issue 24 / Harvey issue 25 on) Lone Ranger Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies New Funnies Popeye Porky Pig Raggedy Ann and Andy Tarzan Tip Top (UF/St. John/Dell) Tom and Jerry

If you are not going to recognize the Four Colors as part of series like Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, etc., then you need pull Donald Duck off your list as it was Four Colors until 1952 just like Bugs and Mickey.

I feel it may be cheating, but there are probably a number of Dell titles that started as Four Colors in the 40s and evolved into their own title and survived through January 1960 not on the list, such as Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, etc. Also, might be cheating, but what about Classics Illustrated? Of course, another one that might be cheating is March of Comics.

Exactly. And Rogers/Austin on Batman. And Perez on Avengers. And, starting in 1980, the NTT. Etc. That article gets some things wrong. X-Men had taken over Marvel well before 1986. That's why we got such spin-offs as Dazzler (1981), New Mutants (1983), Alpha Flight (1983), and at least eight limited series between 1982 and 1985. And many appearances in other titles. And, as far as events go, the writer seems to have forgotten MSHCoC (1982) and Secret Wars I (1984) and II (1985).

Now I'm depressed. I'm still waiting on these two submissions to clear CCS. Looks like I might have another month of wait (four total) to just clear CCS. Is there any way to bump them up to Modern Fast Track after the CCS stage?: MAGAZINE MODERN (+CCS)Estimate at submission: "74 working days"Delivered: 1/15/21Received: 1/26/21 (Interval to = 6 business days) VALUE (+CCS)Estimate at submission: "89 working days"Delivered: 1/15/21Received: 1/26/21 (Interval to = 6 business days

Whiz Comics' first issue was no. 2. The numbering started at 2 because the "first issue" was an ashcan. Like Double Action Comics no. 2.

Lots of titles. Here's my categories: The no No. 1 titles Whiz, Marvel Mystery, Human Torch, Amazing Man, Amazing Fantasy, etc. The variety type titles Four Color, Showcase, etc. The cover is everything titles Suspense, Fantastic, most LB Cole and Baker works, etc. The superhero debut titles All-Star, All-American, Detective, etc. Any other categories? Maybe key artist or writer starts on the title issues? Low print runs? Variants?