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Nope. Again carefully read the thread and your misconceptions will be dispelled. The point is to share news about this popular show - in part because similar news caused handwringing by some HoD fans on the RoP thread so I assume it will be of interest to some here. Me, as I said over on the other thread, not a big concern.I have never not seen a sequel because passage of time. The handwringing was overwrought (and now for those who did it ironic. Were you one of them?

You are a master of misusing terminology. The phrase “some GoT: HoD fans” is by definition not a generalization because of the qualifier “some.”

That does not mean what you think it does. And you are missing the point. I am ok with shows acting like movies (Star Wars came out when I was 11 and we did not get third movie until I was 17)). But I am surprised they are not running a tighter schedule.

Read the thread if you want . Largely self identification.

There was hand wringing on the thread about LOTR: Rings of Power taking too long to release season two by some GOT: HOD fans. Turns out that RoP, which has been filming season 2 already for some time, is going to be coming out before GOT: House of Dragons (maybe HoD appears in 2024, could be later) and Star Wars: Andor (also not started filming which saddens me, but I'll wait). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but see here: The Game of Thrones prequel’s debut season just aired its finale this week, but production on season two doesn’t start until early next year. “Don’t expect [season two] in ’23, but I think sometime in ’24,” HBO chief Casey Bloys recently told Vulture. “I think sometime in 2024 opens the door to later. Not sure why these shows are not turning around faster.

Yep. It was dealer driven. To drive-up prices for SA. Same with Bronze. Dumb concepts when it you get down to it. Focusing decades and/or events makes more sense.

I think not because the Blue Wizards were two buddies. For those who think the timing of this show is wrong for Gandalf or any Istari to show up, consider that in the unfinished tales book "The Peoples of Middle-Earth" they are said to have arrived in the Second Age, around the year SA 1600, the time of the forging of the One Ring.

Have to quote myself after reading a review of Ander which referenced John Le Carre, author of Smiley's People. Nice to know others see it too: Andor takes Star Wars to a place it's never been. It feels more like a John le Carré novel with blasters than a space opera. And as someone who literally once ended a Star Wars rant/article with the words, "that's enough Star Wars for me thanks," it's a welcome change. Don't Let Star Wars Fatigue Stop You From Watching 'Andor' - CNET

I just bought a Lot (single Lot) of Good Housekeeping Silly Symphony pages off of Heritage a few weeks ago for less than a $100. Included in the 30+ pages was the Wise Little Hen. No one else noticed. I debated just framing it, as I have long wanted a single page to frame up because I just couldn't bring myself to take a razor blade to the magazine. But with this purchase my conscience is clean! Still, due to another thread on submitting single pages to CGC, I have decided to submit my single page to CGC to get them to acknowledge the book's significance as the very first DD appearance. Ironically, there are a few copies of recent Good Housekeepings on the CGC census (Deadpool cover) so I know they will slab an issue of the magazine and the size of the page should fit given it was trimmed. You can thank me when the page comes back from CGC and the run-up begins!

I actually think Romance has a stronger upside, but I think of them as being about a lot more than just GGA. They are a ripe target for those who like social commentary and history.

It sounds like you are describing a younger version of a friend and former colleague of mine who collects sexist pop culture. She collects GGA (including some Bill Ward original art) in an ironic sense. It is not out of nostalgia (really its out of criticism of that nostalgia) and it is not because she loves pictures of sexy women (her husband is a talented guitarist in local bands and creative guy for ad agency) but out of a feminist sensibility. Very similar to why I collect anti-communist and A-Bomb material. But, she gets most of her collection as a thrifter and flea market hound. I don't think those buyers are going to be enough to sustain the high prices we see for certain GGA pieces on into the future. My friend had a blog entitled "Mystery Date" riffing on that concept and has written three books: "Pink Think: Becoming a Woman in Many Uneasy Lessons" which she calls a pop-culture history of the perilous path to achieving the feminine ideal; "College Girls: Bluestockings, Sex Kittens, and Co-eds, Then and Now"; and "Swimming in the Steno Pool: A Retro Guide to Making It in the Office." Here's a description of her PInk Think book: If interested click here: Lynn Peril (Author of Pink Think) (goodreads.com)

Just a throw away opinion. Many comic book genres are clearly market-stable in pricing - Funny animals, Ducks, Westerns, TV/Movie, strip reprints, etc. - and I don't see that changing much up or down. Then there are the hot genres: Superheros, PCH, Romance, GGA, etc. Of those, I just think GGA is the most vulnerable. Why? Because there's a lot of GGA out there in other formats cheaper (pulps, pbs, calendars, men's magazines, etc.) and, aside from some great artists, the general selling point is just drawings of pretty girls on covers. But we live in a world where pictures of pretty girls - from innocent to decadent to pornographic - are in abundant supply. This type of nostalgia is, I think, one that is least likely to drive younger collectors to collecting. And to be clear, I'm talking pure GGA. Obviously, comics across the genres have sexy women on the covers. I'm focused on the books that seem entirely focused on the pretty girls - most obviously the many books about women hanging out in the jungle in some form of bathing suit made from a cat or the more cartoony books that focus on pretty H.S. teen-agers (nah - that's not creepy at all!) like the Betty and Veronica covers. (If you're into pretty girls, it may be hard as time goes by to impress your friends with Betty and Veronica or the many jungle girls if you and your friends grew up going on the internet and watching famous beautiful women doing much more risque things.) But, as always, just an opinion predicting the future and I could be wrong. Just seems to me that superheroes, as an obvious example, will have a much stronger run over time than GGA. So too with other genres that have something going for them beyond just a pretty girl drawing on the cover. I dunno. I bought the Detective 1000 Artgerm cover (line drawn) b/c I thought it was a cool example of retro GGA - but my college age son and his friends aren't going to be inspired to buy a comic b/c of a cover like that. They see that kind of imagery all the time just about everywhere. It's not going to give them nostalgia. Maybe in the future, the hot collectible will NFTs of Instagram models. Having said that, I'm not talking short term. I'm talking mid to longer term, as the older generations of collectors age out. I don't see an impending comic crash in any genre at the moment. I do see corrections for certain recent purchases.

A good point was made in an article that appeared today about adaptations of the LOTR: J.R.R. Tolkien himself was clearly comfortable on some level with his work being interpreted since he signed over the rights before his death in 1973.

Baseball cards are not comparable. Prices are crazy and outrageous for what are essentially modern manufactured collectibles. That market is broken, or the fans have lost all sense (or have no monetary worries). You really can't compare different markets that way. Otherwise, comparing comic books to non-comic books you'd be concluding that a lot of obscure comics with zero pop culture significance are way outrageously over-priced. Sure, we like comcs, but there are many books that are scarcer with much greater pop culture significance that don't come close to touching the prices for comics we say today. I don't think sports fans have shown much interest in sports comics either. A better example as an analogy to comic books than baseball cards, especially for GGA collectors, would be pulps, pbs, men's magazines, pin-up calendars, etc. - all of which have been left in the dust by certain GGA drawn covers (not even the real thing) that sell for incredibly high prices by comparison. (If you put a gun to my head and asked me what genre is most likely to crash for comics - I'd pick GGA.). So these kinds of analogies aren't very persuasive to me. Every market is different. .

The publication date was in advance of the cover date and the film.

Thx!

I am serious, the very first appearance of the one of the most important pop culture and comic characters of all time. Thought by many to have first appeared in film, the reality is that this is his first appearance (pre-dates the cartoon). Nothing - in any medium - came earlier. First Donald Duck and super undervalued:

If we're talking first appearances, how about the JUNE 1934 Good Housekeeping?

I've been doing Amazon Prime Video.

For binge watchers all episodes of this award nominated Rotton Tomatoes 97% favorable show are now available for streaming.

Exciting game! Wrexham really had trouble with these guys. But they make it through to the "first round" of the FA Cup and now face off against local rivals Chesterfield. They better step up their game. They have a big league game Saturday. As for the tv show, yesterday it received Critics Choice nominations for Best Sports Documentary and Best Ongoing Documentary Series.

I don't expect us to agree. But conversation can still be interesting with folks who don't share your views - often more so. Tolkien viewed the core of his mythology as three works: (1) The Hobbit (which he viewed as younger reader material), (2) The LOTR (which he viewed as his masterpiece), and (3) The Silmarillion (which he viewed as the background "cosmogonic" Genesis type story). He never finished the Silmarillion. His son and Guy Gavriel Kay put that together. The rights to the Silmarillion have not been sold to my knowledge. I am sure that his Estate views the Silmarillion as being more important than the Second Age which clearly falls into the unfinished tales, notes, and sketches category. So, "No," I would not equate Tolkien's son to the present crop of creators working on the Rings of Power. Tolkien is long dead and this is tangential stuff, not something that Tolkien had hoped to complete in his lifetime. What I am saying is that Tolkien had the confidence to put his mythology out into the world and let others fill in the unfinished tales and sketches. That is what he wanted. He couldn't see what would come of it. He didn't claim to know what he himself would write. The Ents, for example, were a total surprise to him when he wrote them. He tried out and rejected many many ideas and versions of stories over the years. He was smart and sophisticated enough to know that other creators who came after him could take his untold stories in directions he didn't envision (or didn't care to envision or to make the effort). And he was ok, even pleased, by that prospect because it would mean that he had succeeded in creating an enduring mythology. Hope this helps. No one thinks that Tolkien could foresee the future activities by other creators. But he sure could state his then present intent to let it happen. So here's my question to you: What "Tolkien experts" disagree with the notion that Tolkien was open to subsequent creators adding to his mythology?

You need to put his letters in context to understand them. In 1966 Tolkien was incredibly focused upon and upset with copyright violators because the prior year (1965) ACE had published unauthorized paperbacks of the Lord of the Rings. Furthermore, at that time he had commenced work on his own sequel to the Lord of the Rings - something he ultimately decided would not work but which he certainly would not have wanted another to publish. Ultimately, he viewed his mythology as ending with the Elves departure from Middle Earth and had no desire to see sequels. His desire was for the backstory to be filled in. And that's what his son and Guy Gavriel Kay did a few years after his death, and what RoP is doing now.

What are you basing your opinion on? Appendix B of the LOTR states Elrond did not wed Celeborn until Third Age 100. There is no discussion of Galadriel and Celeborn visiting Imladris in Appendix B. If it is another Appendix let me know. So the LOTR is silent on the subject and all we've got is the unfinished tales, sketches and notes which are contradictory and inconsistent. Worth mentioning that Tolkien stated in at least some of those unfinished tales, sketches, and notes that Galadriel was perceived by Sauron as the most formidable adversary around the time when he was attempting to subvert the elves and forge the rings.

Very revealing comments.