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It's dead spec. There are 5606 9.8 copies. Over 800 copies more than UF4 and  nearly 1600 copies over EOSV 2. Supply too high.

On 4/17/2024 at 1:53 PM, kimik said:

Fantastic. McFarlane is signing at the Calgary Expo next week. I have a couple of Spawn #1 newsstands that will be priced at market. Hopefully they sell.

I'm pretty sure you can not get  them cgc witnessed.

On 10/27/2023 at 1:34 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

Success 🙌! Going to peek at how well you did?

 

all 9.8s

On 10/27/2023 at 11:07 AM, ADAMANTIUM said:

All in all fairly quick for such a big comic con, but then I guess it IS fasttrack! Hope it works out well!

 

NYCC Submission  Modern Fast Track
Dropped off Saturday  10/14
Schedule for Grading 10/19
Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging 10/23 

Grading/Quality Control  10/27
Shipped 10/27

NYCC Submission  Modern Fast Track
Dropped off Saturday  10/14
Schedule for Grading 10/19
Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging 10/23 

Grading/Quality Control  10/27

NYCC Submission  Modern Fast Track
Dropped off Saturday  10/14
Schedule for Grading 10/19
Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging 10/23

NYCC Submission  Modern Fast Track
Dropped off Saturday  10/14
Schedule for Grading 10/19
 

On 8/30/2023 at 4:32 PM, batman_fan said:

I am shocked at this price and the auction hasn't even ended

Damn, I was late; it closed at 7,700. Thats a bargain.

Submitted books drop off at SDCC on Sunday
Fast Track Modern

Received: 7/28/23
Scheduled for Grading: 7/28/23

On 7/23/2023 at 10:04 AM, Cat said:

Figured someone may as well get this started. What are we looking forward to? Has anyone read the SDCC ashcan yet? 

Which version? There are two A colored cover version that was sold at the Skybound booth and a black and white version given at the panel.

On 5/26/2023 at 6:49 AM, ShaggyB said:

So is there no way to get bagley signature and remarque along with Emberlin signature?

Edit-

Called support, no way to get that and no option for both to sign and both to do remarques either.

Hmm, well i have 7 books id love bagley to sign and draw on, but id love to get emberlin signature too.

Given the cost and timing, i guess ill wait for the next time and hope they get them both back with more selections.

Will send ultimate fallout #4 for bendis and bagley with drawing though

Before you do look at Bagley Remarques on UF4

On 6/3/2023 at 12:26 PM, Bosco685 said:

VARIETY: ‘Spider-Man’ Producers Tease Live-Action Miles Morales Movie and Animated ‘Spider-Woman’ Film

So you're saying Variety misquoted Amy Pascal and Avi Arad?

"You'll see all of it" was the quote. That's it. We don't know what was asked before. The rest that writer is adding more than what was said.

Avi only talked about Spider-woman.

On 6/2/2023 at 1:42 AM, Bosco685 said:

I'll respond only because it would appear you read the wrong article, and "the woman" is the contracted producer of the Sony Spider-Verse films 

LOL not necessary, as at least I helped guide you to reality.

What you put in bold is not her quote. That's the writer's assumption to click bait.

On 2/13/2023 at 4:27 PM, fastballspecial said:

I wish that were it. Someone just wants to be right.

 

That's what happened with on Riri IIM 7 flipped to IIM 9, Jessica Cruz GL 25 flipped to JL 31, Now Daimen on the regular with 655 and 656. 

On 2/13/2023 at 3:40 PM, Ryan. said:

How does this thread always devolve into cameo vs first appearance debates?

 

 

Because learning the difference ahead of the market your roi can be higher in most cases,

On 2/13/2023 at 5:47 AM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

New Mutants 86 isn't quite like the others. The "teaser" is more of an ad, as it's not in-story, just an image of Cable at the bottom of the final page, after the story content.

Oh yeah that metal body at the end who speaks is Stryfe not Cable?

On 2/13/2023 at 3:56 AM, Corona smith said:

Five panels including a full page where he speaks isn’t a brief appearance. 

On 2/13/2023 at 3:56 AM, Corona smith said:

Five panels including a full page where he speaks isn’t a brief appearance. 

All you are doing is repeating yourself without backing up with resources that show someone in the shadows and body count as full appearance in the grading community.  For example, Doomsday had multiple appearances with body parts only but those appearances  didn't count as full.  Hope pym appearance was just a leg soeaking and it didn't count as a full.

On 2/11/2023 at 10:53 PM, Lazyboy said:

No, regardless of what anyone states here..

It's not, and the number of panels is irrelevant without context. Both 655 and 656 are clearly brief teasers.

Agreed, like Hulk 180, Amazing 299 , Avengers 195, Invincible Iron Man 7, New mutants 86, 656 is a last page reveal teasar. This should be 2nd appearance in cameo.

On 2/11/2023 at 11:27 PM, Corona smith said:

Five panels and he speaks is a first full to me. 

For grading companies, Although it is an appearance, shadows of the character being in background and  body parts do not count towards a full appearance. The Scott Lang test is the bare minimum to qualify for full. Outside of the comic world, yes you would be correct. there would be no "1st appearance in cameo". However,remember we are using how CGC, the grading comic book world normally determines the type of 1st appearance is important.

Plus when you read 657, Batman litterally Introduces Daimen name for the 1st time with the name being in bold and  explains his origin to the reader. 657 should be 1st appearance in full.

On 2/6/2023 at 7:29 AM, Jesse-Lee said:

Here are the recent sales for NM 98 - as I mentioned, it's right around $1,500 on average for a 9.8 copy, of which there are 4,000+ on the census:

There are 34 listings for Batman 655 in a 9.8 on eBay - some of those are for the variant, some are for lots, etc. That book has been selling 2-3 copies a day since the news came out, hovering around the $340-350 mark. 2 weeks ago you could get a copy for $130 if you were patient. So it's already more than doubled, and that's just on the news of a movie.

There are 108 listings for NM 98 in a 9.8 - some of those are for the facsimile, some are for lots. Here's an auction with 24 bids, currently at $1,325 with a day and a half left to go: https://www.ebay.com/itm/403958415665

Here's another with 18 bids, currently at $1,125 with 6 and a half days left: https://www.ebay.com/itm/155390251003

Census count has next to nothing to do with it.

Wouldn't a better comparison be Batman 655 vs 656 vs 657? The demand for deadpool is way higher.

On 2/3/2023 at 5:06 AM, awakeintheashes said:

Batman: Battle for the Cowl #3 (1:10) if you can find it 

Sorry what's special about this book?

Plenty of Buy it now of 655 9.8 on the market. No 656 and 657 buy it now on the market.

On 2/3/2023 at 9:44 AM, trademarkcomics said:

I've been doing this for 30+ years. I know comic book terminology. I'm saying it was flawed from moment one, and needs to be updated. That's how society evolves, by fixing flaws and progressing. You may be initiated into the flawed terminology, but those who enter into into this grand pursuit green are not and they are the ones who are confused and/or misled by it(not me or you).

To those who don't know comic book terminology:

1st appearance=  First time we see a character.
1st appearance in Cameo=  A part of the character is seen or perhaps behind the scenes(or a head on a tv screen).
1st Full Appearance = First time a character is seen in full.

And make no mistake, the industry needs new collectors to keep it going. I know if I were new and paid $10,000 for  Hulk #181, I'd be pretty mad and/or turned off on comic collecting if I were to find out he actually made his first full appearance(by Webster's definition, not by "comic book terminology") the issue before. Oh and wait, there's more! There was also a prototype that "predates" both appearances in Foom #2! So why did I just spend the 10k it took me forever to save for his third appearance(his perception, not yours or mine since we know better)???

Now, if the terminology is changed and we started to value a character's "introductory issue" more than when he's first seen that would fix it, right? 

 

Disclaimer: I know this is going nowhere. This is like trying to tell the NFL that concussions would be eliminated if we took hitting out of the game entirely. It's never going to happen. I'm just trying to demonstrate how flawed the appearance terminology is.

My bad, I should have been specific. The terminology I am using is how graded copies label. The terminalogy you used is correct for nongraded books and how collectors defined books prior to the graded companies.

For graded companies we can't change their terminology because too many books have been graded using the 4 categories listed above  According to the graded companies, you can't label a  book "1st full appearance" without a previous book"1st cameo appearance". A charactar with first full appearance without a 1st appearance cameo is labeled "1st appearance". Gambit though seems like a mix-up in terminology with old school collectors, new collectors and graded companies with how X-men annual 10 and Uncanny 266 should be labeled due to a publish mix up vs continuity.

If I were to guess, in the beginning of CGC they were using the collectors terminology but later switched to the 4 categories when new collectors discovered characters were published prior.


You are right. We have too many ways how appearances are defined. It is confusing. 

On 1/23/2023 at 5:42 AM, Lazyboy said:

It's the first appearance of the new team.

So what? You want to talk overrated? (Over)Valuing an issue just because it's a #1 is

Well, it was at the time, but that's the thing about first chronological continuity appearances...

Yes, this one is actually overrated because people are stupid, don't understand dates, and far too often refer to this as the first appearance of the costume.

No, it's the first full appearance. It's an issue that somebody who actually cares about Gambit would want to read, unlike the Annual.

Well, technically, at least after he and Storm are introduced to the story.

That's... putting it mildly.

Yes. ASM 238 is all about Hobgoblin (and Peter's life because it's still an issue of ASM, duh). Hulk 180 is all about Hulk and Wendigo.

No, and the claim that we only see him on one splash page in 238 is false.

Based on this and #3, you definitely are. Some people, on the other hand, actually understand storytelling.

Not only that, but they didn't even come out before Hulk 181. Still, isn't it interesting that Marvel's ad for their great new character, Wolverine, is for Hulk 181 and not Hulk 180?

You are talking to someone who does not want to learn comic book terminology. That's why OP is confused.
There are 4 categories:
Predates=Any ad or promotion, or preview(not orignal art or taken from the original book)
1st appearance=  Use the Scott Lang test. 3 panels or more where you can view the characters face. It is full appearance that has NO 1st cameo appearance published. It can be a Preview with original art only published in the preview.
1st appearance in Cameo=  2 face panels or less. The panels can have unlimited amount body parts.
1st Full Appearance =needs a 1st appearance in cameo published before has 3 panels or more where you can view the characters face.


Due to publishing decisions unknown to Chris Claremont.There are outliers to these categories like Gambit and Rogue that were published out of continuity.
Are there books mislabeled? Yup, a lot. Unfortutantly, the majority market likes to own the books and trust wikis than to check by reading what's inside the issue and not challenge mistakes. If it is caught early enough, it can be fixed. Some can't like Killer croc, Magik, Jason Todd, and James Rhodes.
Everything you said is spot on.

On 2/1/2023 at 12:28 PM, godzilla43 said:

Yeah, Batman 657 should be his 1st full appearance. In ASM 298 there is one page showing talking Venom in shadows, 299 there is two pages one in shadows, talking and in last page you see Venom and character is named. Now that Damian matters this might turn out to be another "Killer Croc" where the is so many cameos and first appearances that market just picked Batman 357 and well who cares really?!?

Most people on the market do not know what is inside the book.

On 2/1/2023 at 12:01 PM, Rob said:

The CGC label on 655 says cameo on 2 pages.  That sounds like Hulk 180 to me.  656 says "1st full appearance".

Yeah 656 has less panels than 655.