ADAMANTIUM

If it weren't for this thread, you wouldn't have thought that clean of a break as serious nor malicious, similar to anything else that has flaws but is meant to show wear if tampered with, tamper evident not tamper proof. Although idk if CGC is shooting for tamper proof nowadays

I figured it might have been true in that type of miscommunication, benefit of the doubt. The reason I gave broad answers was due to the thread title. The new generation may be more "sealed" as you would have put it, but doesn't mean if you drop it and a corner becomes separated, that the same thing couldn't happen. Technically With more of it sealed, more would fracture, and it might not look as clean. Regardless both would be simple reho,ders as stated for reasons in my last couple of posts. That said and with this thread title, I see or sympathize with why you drew the conclusion. If I seem impatient it is because the Good News was it wasn't anything to do with the thread title, just misconception rather than miscommunication. If that means no more slabs for you, it'll take time, but hopefully we gave enough short but broad details if you come upon more to examine. Cheers!

Here is his microscope camera of, what looks to me as a round peg in a hole secure, am I daft? Looks intact?

Idk why I'm going into this. 1st generation such as these most likely rumored to not be pressed, some buy to crack them out TO press, some just take that rumor and pay a premium for the older label. @paqart all these things have niches and you're able to understand, just it might not mean much to you at this point. Broad statements don't always help detailed conclusions, so my bad. Lord willing you can learn the reholder submission and it may be used to your advantage (as others have) But If you do like the current cases better? It should be obvious to you which those are! So collect how you like. But we will as well, unfortunately as yours might become a prevailing opinion due to being unlearned of the "past?" God forbid 16 years of labels get so scarce that we're all forced to reholder Just thinking out loud here, I had made broad statements but I'm not sure this thread is the one to tie up. Taking a break 💔

If you haven't run into damaged slabs, I'm sure you will in the future. Sorry I wasn't clear at first about everything that was a cause for a reholder. The bolded print and color is only in the newest gen slabs. They only put the top glue label within the case on the newest generation. The wavy label might be because of the pop corner letting in a lot of air or moisture like you said. I "now" don't blame your return, if it truly showed up like that and not from you testing boundaries like it almost sounded like you did. So pardon our French. Pardon our mess that yours might end up as a new popular opinion with now eight years of people being spoiled with new cases. When you come and white flag wave that 16 years of slabs and money flying all needs to be reholdered to the newest case or " because you say so or you're leaving the hobby?" You hear how that is exasperating, correct

The corner separation is NOT normal. No one said it was. A case shouldn't look to be able to be swapped with the old slabs, we never said that it was "normal. You never proved the corner was separated so no one stuck in that argument long. The label rippling is not "common" but "can happen", which it is still cause for reholder. The label on top coming off is "normal in the fact" that it is easy to start a peal and somehow get dislodged, which is cause for a reholder back then as well, although truly most could "live with that!" Not normal though, the 2nd generation like you have there wasused for mostly 16 years and could be looked at as similar to modern newton rings. Some people cared about the label on top, some didn't as the cert is still sealed. Yes when they made the current generation they bolded the print and color of labels to become more readable. Here look at a 1st generation slab, it was worse in the beginning, these 16 year long labels were good enough for everyone at the time, but you're too "good for them?" Having been spoiled by the current generation, I get that, but that all sounds like an over reaction tbh

I wonder if he has ever had to reholder? Your conclusions make me exasperated. I'm free to draw my own too, 😜

This was our exchange. I shouldn't have taken you at your word that the case was popped. No where did I say it is a regular sale. I believed you that it was popped, all I said the rest looks normal, so it isn't a "swapped book!" You're tying up this thread, with understandable concerns. Everyone tried to give you honest information. If you don't like the old slabs but do like the new? Yet your gone forever? Drama Case looks fine, show know proof of popped corner? We say it's a reholder same as it would be for new cases? You say gone forever and blame us, get outta hyear. We believe you that the case is popped but we say ok and repeat that it's a reholder problem? You continue to lambaste and accuse us of confirming your conclusions. That is deluge, but happy you got what satisfies your stance. More power to you, I don't control you nor seek to, but don't put words in our mouths go somewhere and flat out say the CGC boards convinced you, that isnt what we said at all. Happy collecting.

Dude that's not what we said at all, but I'm happy to let you have the last word. We said this is a popped case in need of reholder. Which is tamper evident as you yourself can tell, which goes to prove the case served it's purpose. No one said cracked cases were commonly sold. We refuted that it was swapped, you admitted to failing to prove it was swapped, and yet still say a whole lot between your lines of reasons (that we didn't say.) Do you!

Was that the label notations thread? It is located in comics general coolest threads thread... Pinned I believe Although if that is where you submitted the request, I thought they had updated it since then with notations added. A head scratcher, but usually when they update, they give a reason why request is denied. Did it say? I know also that CGC mike said the guy was busy last I heard, or I think 🤔

Which is of course no different than how things worked prior to CGC. A dishonest seller only needed to fool the poor sod buying his trimmed/ct'd/glued/married cover book, not "the CGC". I still have my CT'd Phantom Lady 15 that was purchased from "a reputable dealer" 25+ years ago when I didn't know what to look for whereas to someone like the guy I bought it from, it would have been obvious that it was CT'd. It's obvious to me now, but I've gained a lot of experience in 25+ years. I will never sell that book, just keep it as a reminder of the "good ol days". All very true. As the day looms with the ongoing eighth year of the new slabs, benefit of the doubt given to the overly cautious. I remember being mystified back in 2016 or 2017 by a red labeled case of a key, that I posted here that was picked up by a boardie rather instead of simply answering yay or nay on legit. I think as a poor college student I was budgeting overly cautious as well, so water under the bridge. I would have bought it then asked otherwise.

Interesting 🤔

Again the paper sliding through is normal. The last picture just shows a scratched edge and nothing out of the ordinary. If picked up by two corners? So you bothered to take a pic but not with the paper over the corner nor pulled apart to show it's popped? I really think you need to buy cheap first and second edition slabs to crack open to get a feel for it. You wouldn't be able to still open the slab enough to exchange mylar sleeved books without major damage to the book. And you wouldn't be able to reseal that slab well enough to fool cgc if it were were really broke. Because they were tamper evident not tamper proof.

We still have yet to see a picture of the popped corner. Again @paqart if that's all it does is being open to slide something under? That is normal. Even the newer new cases were like that but not as severe, and upon inception. You used to be able to slide paper or a torn backing board between to reduce or eliminate newton rings. I would Google a video of cracking a 2nd generation slab, as if you had cracked one open before then you'd know what it looks and feels like. I still don't doubt you but there is no photographic proof that a corner has popped. @Pitboss I forget but was the label attached to the inner mylar with these slabs? I see his label could be warped, which could be to storing conditions or in transit? I still thought the label was sealed in the mylar with the comic. All that is fact based, but to further say, I don't see you sneaking the comic out and replacing it with just "that" photographic proof of "case 'open'ness".

That is Silver age.... But why not 🚫