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On 12/22/2023 at 4:15 PM, jsilverjanet said:
I think as someone said earlier, mistakes will happen, opportunities for fraud will occur and someone will try to take advantage
it's up to CGC to put systems in place to catch those occurrences, so that is the issue that I have
someone (probably the head of QA) should have seen that there was a potential risk for someone to take advantage of this process and made the proper adjustments to the procedure to at least catch it or be alerted
but it never occurred to them and there is where CGC has always been consistent
they operate like a mom and pop shop, it's scary that so much money passes through this operation and more of this stuff hasn't happened before
CGC's #1 priority should have ALWAYS been to protect the integrity of their label. This means having a fraud department to continually analyze their own processes for holes along with staying on top of techniques for detecting fraud at the book level. The fact they have overlooked the reholder process as a weak point indicates either apathy or ineptitude. Either way you slice it, that's bad -- real bad.
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On 12/22/2023 at 1:33 PM, migmtl76 said:Damsn another point of view....
You do realize that StickyGoose is to comics what flat-earthers are to science.
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There is a certain level of failure that is acceptable. For instance, I can accept that CGC might miss a married cover a small fraction of the time. Or that a book has had a chemical bath for cleaning. The techniques they use to detect stuff like that is not going to be 100%, but it should be high enough that the collecting community still finds trust in their authentication and certification process.
What IS unacceptable is slabbing a book with a blue label that is missing a value stamp OR A WHOLE PAGE because they simply took the word of the submitter and performed NO evaluation of the book before re-slabbing it. This isn't just a collector disagreeing with a grader's grade; this is CGC's certification seal being 100% compromised.
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Think of the times you saw a CGC 9.8 book and thought it was a "gift grade" and should have been graded a 9.2 to 9.4. This fraud calls into question those "gift grades". Maybe it was never a gift grade; maybe it was a different book in a 9.8 case. 🤔
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On 12/21/2023 at 10:22 AM, godzilla43 said:
What would you say if someone lets say water cleans, photo bleaches.. (or whatever those advance cleaning techniques are) comic book which should get you a purple label but some of those comes as blue label. Winner winner chicken dinner.
This scenario is considerably different than a missing value stamp which makes a book incomplete. Also, this scenario is considerably different than what the perceived fraud originally discussed in this thread is which involves knowingly selling a comic that has been re-holdered in the wrong case.
I am not a conservator so I don't really have an opinion on that. However, I imagine there are many who think this is fraudulent while there are others that feel cleaning is okay. Once again, a completely different animal than swapping books in different cases.
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On 12/21/2023 at 9:52 AM, MyNameIsLegion said:
If I listed it as a blue labelCGC 9.6 Hulk 181,well that's what it is. Says so right on the label. NOT FRAUD
If a seller knowingly misrepresents what they are selling that is fraud. It does not matter that the case has a blue label. If the seller knows that the book is mislabeled and does not divulge that the book is labeled incorrectly because of the missing value stamp they are misrepresenting what they are trying to sell which is fraud.
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On 5/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Dayofthedead204 said:
Mine was delivered on the same day with the same message. Today is May 4th and it's still not marked as picked up.
In other news:
I had two 10 Modern book submissions arrive to CGC (via FedEx) on April 27.
Shown as "received" on April 28.
May 4th - still not on "My Submissions" or SFG.
Never took this long to open my subs before.
Mine was delivered to CGC on 4/25 and it is yet to be officially received so yeah they are probably overloaded again.
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It seemed unopened, but I guess it's not that hard to re shrink wrap something.
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I bought a DC 4-pack from Walmart this morning. When I got it home and opened it, there were 3 DC books and 1 Marvel book inside??? It was a Warhammer 40,000 Marvel book.
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Anyone know of and can share the best local LCS or Flea Markets in the Tampa Bay area for comic book dollar bins?
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On 8/17/2022 at 2:05 PM, southern cross said:
Why not stream on Facebook, YouTube or any other platform that was not specifically set up for selling goods.
What's the difference? People sell stuff on Facebook and YouTube all the time as well. And considering they were doing giveaways, WhatNot is better setup to handle that.
ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC
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