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Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
It's easy to underestimate the value of a memorable catchphrase. Stan had a boatload of those in the early 1960s. It may seem like a little thing today, but (for example) the Thing's battle cry. "It's clobberin' time" surely enhanced the entertainment value for the reader. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
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Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
I think it's often considered to be Ditko's idea--though this scene (pre-dating Ditko's run in Tales to Astonish) certainly suggests otherwise. Unless this rationale for the transformation first took place in the Lee-Ditko Hulk #6. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Glad to see Don get some credit. He never was fully comfortable with superheroes, so Marvel's Silver Age didn't showcase his abilities in the best possible light. Still, he was a solid craftsman and storyteller. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
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Ben Oda lettering, it appears, at his mid-1950s peak. Jack and Joe could afford the best personnel back in the day!
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Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
We're all on the same page here... -
A race of Silver Surfers, and display lettering reminiscent of Simek and Rosen. I wonder if Jack and Mike were attempting a Marvel vibe to hook some of the Zombies?
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Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
“I fart in your general direction”! -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
...with mighty fine lettering by Art Simek (top word balloon) and Sam Rosen (rest of page). As someone who has unreadable handwriting, I always admire fine calligraphy. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Stan didn't seem to notice that he was the butt of the joke. Jack did something similar a few years later, with Ego (in Thor). -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
There was also The Legend of P*ss Pot Pete. Rather bawdy, but apparently it circulated in multiple versions beginning in 1927, according to Wikisource. Jack was 10 years old then, living in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, a historically rough neighborhood. It would not surprise me if he had encountered the poem at some point in his early youth. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Yup. Silver Age Marvel was often pretty good about changing course when they made a misstep. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
A decent character with a stupid name--in the Paste Pot Pete tradition? I wonder when "Deep Purple" became Killgrave, officially? -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Thanks! As I suspected, no blood. No surprise there--it would have upset the kiddies (and their parents) in 1964. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
You forgot about arguably the best of the bunch: the Purple Man! -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Just noticed that Vince C. signed the van on page 3. Did he think Stan would forget to mention him in the credits? -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
The whole story reminds me of an early 60s Silver Age DC story: wordy and bland, but competently done. Perhaps that's Joe Orlando's DC-inspired story pacing at work? -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
"Even in failure there can be nobility, but failing to try brings only shame." -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
DD 3: a suicide in a Code-approved book! I assume the blood in the final panel was added for the Marvel Masterworks recoloring. It would be interesting to compare this page to the original, if anyone has a copy. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Certainly, the joke works much better when the final two panels occur on the same night. (I think Zonker made the same point earlier in the thread.) I wonder though why someone didn't fix the moon in the final panel. Stan has asked for art revisions at other times to bring the art in line with the dialogue. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
In all likelihood, Sol Brodsky and Flo Steinberg took care of most of the unpleasantries (i.e., the day-to-day office management and personnel-related stuff), leaving Stan free to dialogue and edit. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
My initial observation was that Ditko's background visuals in the final two panels suggest the passage of time (about two weeks, if I remember my lunar cycles correctly). Stan's dialogue tells a different story. One can interpret this discrepancy however one chooses. -
Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1964) The Slow Build
Dr. Haydn replied to Prince Namor's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
It's been suggested that Marvel was trying to fly under the radar and get their superhero mag off the ground without industry leader DC noticing. I can (sort of) buy that, but maybe they were simply hedging their bets. Monsters and aliens were still trendy in 1961, and Marvel had had very little success with superhero mags since World War II. -